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Opinion: Let’s get out of Afghanistan Print E-mail
By David Gushee   
Tuesday, September 08, 2009

(ABP) -- There is no good news from Afghanistan:

-- Every indication exists that the sorry presidential “election” that just occurred there was entirely corrupted by every form of vote fraud, including massive ballot stuffing and intimidation of voters.

-- Allies of Afghan president and erstwhile American friend Hamid Karzai led the way in destroying the fairness of the election in a number of documented cases.

-- The obvious illegitimacy of the election is paralyzing the already hopelessly weak Afghan government.

-- The Afghan state shows no capacity to deliver any of the most basic state services, such as security, utilities, law enforcement, jobs or education, on its own.

-- Afghanistan is becoming a narco-state, led by drug traffickers with close ties to the Karzai government.

-- Afghan troops are notoriously unreliable as partners to American troops, at least when there is real fighting to be done.

-- American and British casualties are spiking; the more troops we send in (21,000 more since President Obama took office), the more that die. Last month was the worst month for American casualties in Afghanistan since September 2001, when the war began.

-- The new, rather gloomy, strategic assessment by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the chief United States commander in Afghanistan, recommends a minimum addition of 10,000 more troops, up to a maximum of 45,000 more troops, to reverse current trends. The maximum figure would raise our troop levels there to around 115,000.

-- Fifty-seven percent of Americans now oppose the war in Afghanistan, the highest level of opposition since the conflict's beginning; support for the war in the United Kingdom is even weaker.

A very insightful article by Jim Skillen, longtime head of the Center for Public Justice, points out the deeper problems of our “war” in Afghanistan:

-- President Bush sent troops into Afghanistan in 2001 to defend us from al Qaeda terrorists and the Taliban. Eight years later, we are still there, with victory nowhere in sight, and the Taliban is resurgent.

-- Skillen rightly points out that “the long slog ... has continued for so long that other aims have been added along the way to justify the military losses and expenditures. Chief among the added aims is to promote freedom and democracy in the world, and that now involves us in trying to build a state in Afghanistan.”

-- But nation-building in Afghanistan involves spending tens of billions of dollars and hundreds of lives to provide essentially all state services in a disastrously failed state.

-- Meanwhile, Americans are losing patience with this war without end, when we have so many unmet needs at home.

-- There is broad awareness of the terrorist threats in many nations and other parts of the world, such as India, Pakistan, Somalia, Indonesia, and Chechyna, and that these are addressed by our country without sending troops to attack, conquer, and then rebuild each of those states.

It seems to me that President Obama is fighting a residual war in Afghanistan almost as a kind of carry-over reflex from a different era. In that earlier era, America had sufficient money, troops and confidence that we believed we could and must project our military power anywhere in the world in order to advance our ideological or security goals. This pattern has characterized American foreign policy since at least the 1960s. Add the 9/11 attacks and you get the darker, more apocalyptic motivation that if we do not knock over the terrorists in their havens, they will find us in our streets.

Somehow, I don't think that a ramping up of the bloody, costly war in Afghanistan is exactly “change we can believe in.” It is instead more of the same American imperialistic hubris mixed with fear and fiscal improvidence. We cannot afford this quest for perfect security. We would instead do better to improve our homeland-security capacities and use our intelligence services and diplomatic corps rather than stretching our military and budget to exhaustion.

Is President Obama afraid of seeming weak on defense? Is that why he is taking this course? Let’s not go down that road again!

A recent New York Times opinion piece wondered whether Afghanistan would be for Obama what Vietnam was for LBJ -- the graveyard of his presidency, especially of his expansive domestic-policy dreams. It is a good question to ponder. I urge the president to reverse course and get us out of Afghanistan as soon as possible.

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David Gushee is distinguished university professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University.

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Where's the love?
written by Dr. J, September 08, 2009
This writer is amazing. He rants about the US intensively interrogating a couple of terrorists. Yet, because he thinks continuing a war to free millions on innocent people from drug lords and a corrupt government will hurt Obama's political aspirations, the US should hide its tail and retreat. What a crock.
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written by pjerwin, September 08, 2009
Gushee wrote:
Every indication exists that the sorry presidential “election” that just occurred there was entirely corrupted by every form of vote fraud, including massive ballot stuffing and intimidation of voters.
-- Allies of Afghan president and erstwhile American friend Hamid Karzai led the way in destroying the fairness of the election in a number of documented cases.
-- The obvious illegitimacy of the election is paralyzing the already hopelessly weak Afghan government.
What? Don't like Chicago-style politics? The Afghans have held clean and successful elections since 2003. What changed? :-D

Gushee has poor recall of the facts on Afghanistan:
President Bush sent troops into Afghanistan in 2001 to defend us from al Qaeda terrorists and the Taliban. Eight years later, we are still there, with victory nowhere in sight, and the Taliban is resurgent.
The truth is, Operation Enduring Freedom was a military campaign to destroy the al-Qaeda terrorist training camps inside Afghanistan. They also made it an aim to aid the United Nations-recognized Afghanistan givernment in overthrowing Taliban. U.S. air strikes against the Taliban and al-Qaeda, culminating in the seizure of Kabul by the Northern Alliance and the overthrow of the Taliban. The former Afghan mujahideen and diaspora met in Germany and formulated the Bonn Agreement for the formulation of a new democratic Afghan government. The Taliban was on the outside looking in from 2001 to 2007, when they began to increase their presence, about the time when Bush officially became a lame-duck and the Taliban were anticipating an administration change in the US, probably being replaced by a liberal, anti-war President who promised withdrawal.
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written by tj282828, September 09, 2009
Frankly, I don't get it. Withdrawal means mass murder will happen under a collapsed state: see Vietnam. Women's rights will be vanquished. Starvation and malnutrition will be common. God given rights will be violated. Building a modern democracy in a third world country is difficult, but to simply quit means people die.

Liberal values are still a mystery to me. They say we are to help the poor, needy, and disenfranchised, but then they say stuff like this. Anyone else see a contradiction? Oh, I would bet money that he does not support such a hands off approach in Israel. (bet money a figure of speech. . . lol)
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written by fearnot, September 14, 2009
We should all leave Afghanistan because we haven’t the stomach to act or the eyes to see what the real problem is.



The root cause of all problems in Afghanistan is an ideology. This ideology is Islam.



The fundamentalists, terrorists, misogynists, bigots and brigands who have consistently held power in that country have all claimed Islam as the underpinning and inspiration for all that they do. We should believe them. Curiously, we ignore their statements and profess to know their religion better than they do. This is a colossal mistake. They are faithfully following the precepts of their book and the example of their prophet. Islam is unlike any other religion. It has a definite political goal of world domination through lies, deception, conflict and terrorism. All one need do is look at a map of global hotspots and one glaring common thread emerges - ISLAM.



Sophisticated pundits who have always been wrong on the subject of Afghanistan and the Muslim world will likely dismiss this as an oversimplification if not worse. I respond by saying that things are generally simple and we insist on complicating them.



Until we in the West acknowledge Islam as a cancer and strategize to suppress and ultimately eradicate the influence of this pernicious religion in Afghanistan and in the world as a whole, there will never be peace, we will be of no use and we place ourselves and future generations at grave risk.
No good news for Afghanistan
written by bclaytor, September 15, 2009
I was rather stunned at the opening sentence by Dr Gushee in this editoral. "No good news" from Afghanistan? I remember traveling in that region in the year 2000 with missionaries seeking to enter and plant churches in that beautiful country. There was little way in those days, except at the cost of life. After 2001, several groups began bold church planting efforts that still go on today. The only reason we have the access now is that the military has a measure of safety and freedom in that country. If we turn it back over to the Taliban, women are beaten, pastors are killed, many are persecuted for the faith. Is that acceptable to us? We have seen this drumbeat before--Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan by the same old crowd in Congress, and their allies in the press. As for me, people being brutalized for their faith is not acceptable!!
Well done, David.
written by jbird, September 15, 2009
As usual, David gushee provides well-reasoned, humane insights. My eyes were opened on Afghanistan by reading 'The Spaces in Between' by Rory Stewart. I now view Afghanistan as, not a country, but a loose confederation of many clans, each led by a war lord. Think of the Holy Land in the time of the Judges--violent, corrupt, strongly male-dominated. The numbers of American troops needed to 'build' a nation there would be immense. And no leader has even said that the mission is to build a nation--but to prevent attacks on America. I do think Pres Obama will give in to the voices of the military, and, in order not to be thought 'soft' will keep troops there and even increase their numbers. I hope he chooses otherwise.
I agree sort of...
written by Xenophon, September 15, 2009
This is a very difficult issue. Attacking Afghanistan after the September 11th attacks was clearly justified based on collective self-defense. But once we had toppled the Taliban, we became and are stuck in a quagmire not dissimilar from the Soviet occupation of the country in the 1980's. I have no qualms about being brutal with an enemy, but neither did the Soviets and they were famously unsuccessful in Afghanistan. I do not think much has changed in Afghanistan since that time, so we have to be very careful about what is feasible in preventing the return to power of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

At the same time, if we immediately and unceremoniously withdraw from Afghanistan, it is very likely that the Taliban would return to power in time. They are not supported by the general public, but they are much better organized and determined than any other faction that seeks control of their central government. Withdrawal would likely lead to not only oppression for the Afghan people, but would allow terrorists to re-open their shop to plan other attacks on the West and Israel. Withdrawal would also signal American lack of resolve and weakness, which the terrorists are correct in sensing in the West.

Two aspects of this issue that Dr. Gushee seems to miss continually in his discussion of a range of topics are (1) the need for a crude realism in public affairs due to human evil (2) his overlooking the role of culture in human affairs. First, for the reasons that I just discussed, what the U.S. should do in Afghanistan is incredibly difficult. I do not see that Dr. Gushee is troubled by the practical as well as moral dilemmas posed by our involvement in Afghanistan. The other shortcoming in this editorial is that Dr. Gushee seems completely oblivious to Afghan culture. In fact, perhaps the key to heading off the Taliban so that we can responsibly leave Afghanistan is to work more at the local level to co-opt possible collaborators with the Taliban before they are able to regain power. Senator Carl Levin of Michigan has argued effectively that such a localized strategy has worked well in Iraq where we cut off support for the terrorists there. It is worth giving Levin's proposal a try. Both the U.S. and the Soviets made the mistake of trying to control Afghanistan from the top down without taking into account the intricate, highly fragmented quality of the Afghan culture.

I certainly agree with Dr. Gushee's concern about American imperialism. I agree that nation building driven by top-down social engineering is mistaken. The Bush Administration should be criticized for taking this approach especially in light of President Bush's criticism of the Clinton Administration's nation building efforts in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. We should not be intervening in the natural processes that shape cultures anywhere. That includes the social evolution of our own country. We view social engineering as disrespectful to our traditions and ways of life, so should we view American efforts to reshape Afghan as oppressive. If Dr. Gushee argues that the U.S. should not be imposing a top-down reform of another country's culture, then he should also oppose social engineering measures taken by the American government within our own boundaries. It is just as oppressive to be forced into a mold in the U.S. as it is in Afghanistan.
But I thought Afghanistan was the "good" war.
written by Ken, September 16, 2009
Liberals raked President Bush over the coals for committing troops to Iraq (even though many of them voted to give him the power to do so). They said he should have focused more on Afghanistan. Now these same people are calling us to pull out of Afghanistan.

Don't try to figure out a liberal. It's an exercise in futility.
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written by robber, September 16, 2009
I can't add anything to the above comments. It just seems like this article belongs on the Huffington Post, not a Baptist news service.
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written by Jesdisciple, November 13, 2009
Yup, I don't think I've ever seen Gushee contradict any Democratic policy. I can't take any of his political arguments seriously until he starts doing that (and continually, not just in a few token articles).

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