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By Bob Allen   
Wednesday, December 09, 2009

ATLANTA (ABP) -- Former President Jimmy Carter recently told the world's largest interfaith gathering that religion has a vital role to play in ending "the global scourge of discrimination and violence against women."

Speaking by remote video from Atlanta to the fifth modern-day Parliament of the World's Religions meeting in Melbourne, Australia, the 39th president of the United States and Nobel Peace Prize winner addressed the gathering Dec. 3 as "a Christian layman and a former political leader."

"Every generic religious text encourages believers to respect essential human dignity, yet some selected scriptures are interpreted to justify the derogation or inferiority of women and girls, our fellow human beings," said Carter, a former Southern Baptist who teaches Sunday school at Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains, Ga.

Former President Jimmy Carter, pictured here at a New Baptist Covenant Celebration in North Carolina, spoke to world religion leaders via satellite.

Carter told representatives from 80 nationalities and more than 220 faith traditions that "all of us have a responsibility to acknowledge and address the gross acts of discrimination and violence against women that occur every day."

He cited examples including statistics showing that one in three women and girls is beaten or sexually abused in her lifetime, the use of rape as a weapon of war in places like the Republic of the Congo and estimates that 4 million girls and women are trafficked each year in the sex trade.

Carter said religious bodies lag behind the secular world in seeking progress for women.

"It is ironic that women are now welcomed into all major professions and other positions of authority, but are branded as inferior and deprived of the equal right to serve God in positions of religious leadership," he said. "The plight of abused women is made more acceptable by the mandated subservience of women by religious leaders."

Carter repeated many themes he included in an article he wrote in July representing the Elders, an independent group of eminent global leaders convened by Nelson Mandela to combine their collective influence and experience to support peace and human rights.

In the article Carter said his decision nine years earlier to leave the Southern Baptist Convention became "inevitable" when SBC leaders adopted a new consensus faith statement "quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be 'subservient' to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service."

Carter referred to the denomination's most recent version of the Baptist Faith and Message statement. While it does declare that women should not be pastors and should submit to their husbands' "servant leadership," it is silent on whether women can serve as deacons or chaplains and does not claim that Eve was created after Adam or is responsible for original sin. However, other SBC actions over the last three decades -- including a 25-year-old resolution and a more recent decision by its home-mision agency to quit endorsing female chaplains -- have dealt with the other issues to which Carter alluded.

Some SBC leaders objected to Carter's theology, but he told religious leaders in Melbourne that now that he is no longer in public office he is able "to speak without restraint on somewhat controversial subjects."

Carter acknowledged there are verses in the Bible that would appear to support the subjugation of women, but he said they reflect the cultural mores of the times when they were written instead of God's will.

"The truth is that male religious leaders have had -- and still have -- an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women," Carter said. "They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter."

"At their most repugnant, the belief that women are inferior human beings in the eyes of God gives excuses to the brutal husband who beats his wife, the soldier who rapes a woman, the employer who has a lower pay scale for women employees, or parents who decide to abort a female embryo," he said. "It also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair and equal access to education, health care, employment, and influence within their own communities."

Carter called "on all those with influence to challenge and change the harmful teachings and practices -- in religious and secular life -- that justify discrimination against women and to acknowledge and emphasize the positive messages of equality and human dignity."

The Parliament of the World's Religions has its roots in an 1893 meeting during the Chicago World's Fair. For the modern-day iteration of the gathering, its mission is to "cultivate harmony among the world's religious and spiritual communities and foster their engagement with the world and its guiding institutions in order to achieve a just, peaceful and sustainable world."

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Zero Credibility
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 10, 2009
When Mr. Carter compares those who uphold the Biblical roles of men and women with those who rape and abuse women, he renders himself totally incredible as a Baptist or even as a reasonable human being. He must have a heart full of hatred and spite for the Bible believing Baptist community to so smear them. And to think, these are the very people who helped put him into office when he ran as a "born again" candidate.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Carter who?
written by Bobby McCord, December 11, 2009
The most pathetic president we ever had is now one of the most pathetic Christian Laymen who is speaking today. All he did was run down the Bible by saying it was not relevant for today. I do agree that any woman would have done a better job as president than he did. I am sure any Bible believing woman would be a better choice to teach his Sunday School class. 99.9% of Southern Baptist women seem to be happy with what God's Word says. Women stand out in our denomination as leaders and examples of Christian service. Some of our greatest heroes of the faith are women. Has Jimmy Carter ever heard of Lottie Moon or Annie Armstrong? Jimmy Carter's biggest problem is the same problem he has always had, he doesn't know what he is doing and he doesn't know what he is talking about.
A legend in his own mind...
written by Ken, December 11, 2009
Jimmy Carter tries awfully hard to convince us that he wasn't such an awful president. Unfortunately, those of us who are old enough to remember his presidency know better.
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written by KT2005, December 11, 2009
Hmmmm. Carter is simply stating the liberal feminist line. Now here is the ironic thing. His ideas are now the majority in the U.S., Southern Baptist views are the minority. That being true who is responsible for the horrible statistics of abused women? Do the liberal ideas that dominate our culture influence these statistics? I think so.

Let us face a hard but simple truth. Women are at the mercy of men. Why? Because men are much stronger. If men are not taught to use their strength to protect women vile things will happen. We have a sex crazed culture that is destroying women. Feminist led the charge by encouraging women to be just as macho and sexual as men. What is the fruit of the tree? (Btw, at SBC churches men are taught to open doors for women as well as treasure them as feminine, beautiful, and special.)

Carter's statistics are right on but his explanation is way off. He and his liberal cohorts are responsible for deconstructing traditional America and forming a liberal, sexually obsessed wasteland where women suffer first and foremost. Ideas have consequences.
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written by hbharral, December 12, 2009
Thank goodness for Jimmy Carter, a Christian who lives out his beliefs and stands up for right and God's truth in the very difficult realities of our world. As a woman, I am grateful for his ability to get beyond culturally defined stances to testify to God's love for all human beings -- and to challenge all those of us who call ourselves Christians to act to change the horrors that are being perpetrated on women and children throughout the world and even in our own neighborhoods. We must get beyond arguing about theological stances that divide us and start living our faith. Regardless of how one feels about women in ministry (and I believe strongly that God has not excluded me - or other women - from the responsibility of fully following Jesus however he calls us), the reality of human trafficking, violence and abuse exists. Jimmy Carter is an example of showing God's love in the hard work of defending basic human rights. How can one argue against that?
Jimmy Carter on the Abuse of Women
written by mitchc, December 12, 2009
The church has a terrible record both in the fostering of second class citizen status for women within the church and tolerance for the abuse of women outside the church. I am thrilled that former President Carter is willing to speak out on the matter. I am sad that so many are willing to look the other way or to condone the mistreatment of women around the world. The church should set the example. There are no second class members in the family of God. We are all bought by the blood of Jesus. Did he shed less for women? Absolutely not! It is time for the church to line up with Jesus and Jimmy.
Jimmy's "Faith"
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 13, 2009
I have read both of Mr. Carter's books in which he expounds his "faith" and can testify that his faith is not the faith of Christ. He is a died-in-the-wool, full blown, unabashed theological modernist radical who uses his notoriety to bash Bible believing Baptist churches and promote his ungodly agenda. The fact that he capitalizes on the plight of abused and misused women to advance his faithless cause only serves to further expose the malignancy of his character.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
What a confession!
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 13, 2009
When Jimmy Carter ran for president he ran as a "born again" candidate. In his book expounding his "faith" he stated that he is "being born again" (whatever in the world that means).

Now, in his role as one of a ground of self appointed "Elders" he makes the following statement:

"But my fellow Elders and I, who come from many faiths and backgrounds, no longer need to worry about winning votes or avoiding controversy - and we are deeply committed to challenging injustice wherever we see it."

So Mr. Carter frankly admits that his religious posture when running for President was about "winning votes" and "avoiding controversy". And this man expects us to revere him as a spiritual "Elder"? What a sad joke!

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
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written by FWN, December 13, 2009
Tell me something, Mark. According to your inerrant Bible, just what must one do to be Born Again? Since you've set yourself in the place of God as judge of President Carter, which of the steps to salvation has he not taken? Repent? Believe? Confess? There must be something for you to make as blasphemous a statement as you did. (Romans 14:10-12)
JUDGING and HYPOCRICY
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 13, 2009
FNW,

According to God's inerrant word the only thing a man has to do to be born again is believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Mr. Carter is the one who wrote books declaring his "faith" in which he said he is "being born again." If a man tells me he is "being born again" who am I to tell him that he IS born again?

So far as judging, Mr. Carter has judged those who believe what the Bible says about the role of men and women to be guilty of oppressing women and contributing to their rape and abuse. You have judged me guilty of blasphemy.

In short, you are a silly hypocrite who doesn't have one qualm about judging other people so long as you and those with whom you agree are doing the judging.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
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written by FWN, December 13, 2009
Mark:

It is your prerogative to disagree with President Carter (or with me) all you want. Your post, however, went far beyond that when you said:

“I have read both of Mr. Carter's books in which he expounds his ‘faith’ and can testify that his faith is not the faith of Christ."

That, my friend, is judging President Carter’s salvation experience, and that IS blasphemy! Does your fundamentalism give you insight into his heart? Have you personally sat down with him to inquire about his salvation? No, you made your statement based on your jaundiced impression of his books, or more probably on your political dislike of him as president. You have usurped the providence of God; if you have argument with this, it’s not with me, it’s with the holy writ of Scripture, and you can take it up with Christ at the Judgment Seat.

I have watched your posts on this site for some time now and have observed that you tend to run your mouth off before you put your mind in gear. You most certainly did in this case, and it’s flat wrong.
FWN
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 14, 2009
So, since you disagree with me then I don't know what I'm saying? LOL! What an arrogant ass!

Now listen very closely this time: in Mr. Carter's own words he said he is "being born again". That means he doesn't even claim to be born again. So who are you to judge him to be born again when he doesn't even claim to be born again? It is you, not I, who are assuming the role of God, claiming to know that a man is something other than what he said that he is.

So far as the subject at hand, I also quoted where Mr. Carter frankly admitted that he previously hid his real agenda to get votes and avoid controversy. His exact words are:

"....no longer need to worry about winning votes or avoiding controversy - and we are deeply committed to challenging injustice wherever we see it."

That is if a man says "I lied to you before to get your vote, but now I'm telling the truth." And we are supposed to take this man seriously?

Really, FWN, you are the one who needs to get your brain in gear.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Not Good Enough
written by FWN, December 14, 2009
Mark:

In response to my first question, you said, “According to God's inerrant word the only thing a man has to do to be born again is believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

In response, I would ask you: Has President Carter believed on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ? He has testified publically on numerous occasions since at least the 1970’s that he has, and if he has, the issue is settled. The trouble is that neither you nor I know for sure; only God does, and it’s His sole prerogative to judge.

You have usurped that prerogative, and my charge of blasphemy still stands – unanswered and unrefuted.

I have not read President Carter’s book to which you referred, but I can say that I trust your interpretation of it even less than I trust your interpretation of Scripture, which is to say, not much at all. It is patently obvious from reading your posts that you have an intense hatred for Jimmy Carter. You hate him because his politics differ from yours; you hate because he has worked hard to make a difference in the world since leaving office; and, most of all I suspect, you hate him because he has opposed the unmitigated disaster you fundamentalists have made of the Southern Baptist Convention. Your demonstrated hatred does nothing to commend you as a child of God (John 13:34-35), and neither does your foul language.

Your answer to my question quoted Paul in Acts 16:31. Over in Romans 10:9-10 he wrote, “If thou will confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that God has raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” In neither of these passages, nor anywhere else in the New testament, save John 3, do the words “born again” appear. We evangelicals have appropriated the phrase to describe salvation, because we think that that’s what Christ was referring to in his discourse with Nicodemus. Considering the sole requirement for salvation that you correctly stated, it would be heresy to say that a person cannot be saved unless he calls it a “born again” experience.

What did Carter mean if he said that he was being born again? I don’t know, but I can say that he could be correct. While salvation is a time-certain event, it is also a process, best described by the 3 “P”s: We have been saved from the PENALTY for sin; we are being saved from the POWER of sin [through the power of the Holy Spirit]; and we will be saved from the PRESENCE of sin [in Heaven]. Here again, your hatred may have blinded you to the truth, and

...your spiritual immaturity continues to manifest itself.
FWN
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 15, 2009
FWN,

You said,

"I have not read President Carter’s book to which you referred."

Actually, Mr. Carter wrote two books expounding his faith. I suggest you read them if you want to comment intelligently on his religious profession.

You said,

"You hate him because his politics differ from yours; you hate because he has worked hard to make a difference in the world since leaving office."

I hate Jimmy Carter, and all of his modernist ilk, because they, like snakes, slither in among Baptist people and deceive them into their filthy Christ denying heresies. How you can take him seriously when he frankly admitted that he lied about his religion to get elected is beyond my comprehension. But you said,

"...most of all I suspect, you hate him because he has opposed the unmitigated disaster you fundamentalists have made of the Southern Baptist Convention."

LOL! I'm neither a Southern Baptist nor a Fundamentalist - I'm a Landmarker! I do, however, thank God that some Southern Baptists had the fortitude to rise up and push Mr. Carter and his cronies out of their fellowship. Their posterity will rise up and call them blessed.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas

P.S. You also said, "your foul language" which I suppose refers to my calling you an "arrogant ass". If you think "arrogant ass" is cussing, I suggest you put your brain in low and get your Websters out and look up the meaning of "ass".
My Last Post on this Matter
written by FWN, December 15, 2009
Mr. Osgatharp:

You've had three posts to answer my charge, and you haven't.

You are still a blasphemer who will answer to God for his blasphemy.

You now reveal yourself as a self-confessed hatemonger.

The question which you should ask yourself, in light of what the Lord Jesus Christ clearly and unambiguously taught in John 13:34-35, is are you really a child of God?
FWN
written by Mark Osgatharp, December 15, 2009
FWN,

"You now reveal yourself as a self-confessed hatemonger."

Call me what you wish, a man cannot love God nor God's people nor any man without hating that which is evil. Modernists are evil to the max and therefore to be hated. As it is written in God's inerrant Scriptures as inspired by His inerrant Word:

"Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved."

And again,

"Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: and see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting."

Thank God Almighty that the Southern Baptists are shed of Jimmy Carter and a host of other modernists. May God rout out the modernists who are still hiding out in Southern Baptist churches and deliver His people from this hellish swarm!

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Thank You Mark
written by Bobby McCord, December 22, 2009
Thank you Mark, for speaking the truth. Too bad the truth flies in the face of most of the people who read and write on this web site. I will continue to stand for the inerrancy of scripture because without that we have no authority to stand on. FWN speaks of our Innerant Bible with disgust and disdain in his heart, that is true blasphemy. Keep up the good work Brother Mark, there are some of us out here who still believe.

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