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Opinion: A third -- Baptist -- way forward? Print E-mail
By David Gushee   
Monday, January 04, 2010

(ABP) -- In December I was talking with a promising 30-something Christian who has moved into the Atlanta area. Our conversation strikes me as a good place to begin 2010 -- because it has to do with the vitality and future of the Baptist family to which most readers of this column are committed.

Bill was raised in a prominent Southern Baptist congregation where he eventually came to play a significant role of leadership. His years at this church and his wide reading formed him as a committed, theologically orthodox Christian. When choosing a seminary Bill picked a school outside of the Baptist fold. He eventually helped start a couple of non-denominational churches before coming back to the Atlanta area with his wife, Linda, when she landed a prize job in her field.

Bill and Linda’s entire future lies in front of them, and this couple’s church choices are not constrained by the denominational loyalty of earlier generations. Bill told me that in surveying the landscape he and his wife were hoping to find at least one of two following realities, both if possible: they seek a church deeply anchored in the theological-liturgical tradition of the historic church universal. But they also seek the compelling spiritual vitality and passion most evident among charismatic Christians.

I asked Bill whether Baptists are in the running. Did they meet either of these criteria? He said that Baptist churches were usually neither deeply rooted in the ancient theological and liturgical traditions of the church, nor generally brimming with compelling spiritual vitality and passion. Ouch.

Picture a road that comes to a fork. One fork heads in the direction of Europe, toward Rome or Canterbury. The other heads south, toward places like Guatemala, Zimbabwe, South Korea, and all over the United States -- anywhere charismatics and Pentecostals gather. Christians today are choosing one or the other of these paths -- either the rootedness of sober, thoughtful ancient traditions tested over time, or the vitality of Spirit-filled congregations shouting praises and weeping laments before God.

And so what of the Baptists? Is there a third fork in the road, one that leads our way?

We will clearly lose Bill and Linda. We are losing many more like them. I cannot tell you the number of young Christians I know, raised in Baptist churches, graduates of Baptist universities, who have ended up either Anglican or non-denominational/charismatic.

As a Baptist, I pray we are not on a dead-end path. If that is not to be, we will have to find a way forward that has some kind of organic continuity with our past. We cannot simply imitate either the high liturgism of the Catholics and Anglicans or the emotional passion of the charismatics. We don’t do either of these very well, and our efforts often feel awkward and forced.

We have our own historic strengths that we can build upon. At our best, we have studied and preached the Bible with skill and clarity. We have had not so much a great, high theological tradition but a working, grassroots theology and ethic that has often grounded lives well lived. We have strong traditions of sharing our faith with others by word and deed, in evangelism, mission and service. We have served children well in many generations, and often have had the most vibrant youth groups for miles around. We have sometimes been quite good at making committed disciples out of struggling seekers. We have traditions of moral sobriety and rigor and have expected much of ourselves. We have had a profound internal community life that has carried many people through good times and bad.

Most important, at our best we have loved Jesus. We have immersed ourselves in the story of his life and have so much wanted to be like him that his life has worked its way into our life. Many Baptists “have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back” --  and have not turned back.   

I believe that there is a path ahead for us that can learn from both Canterbury and Azusa Street but that reflects our own indigenous, organic history. It is a path that can mean a vibrant future for Baptists. But there are no guarantees for our future in a context that seems to lead the shrinking population of Christians in our country toward other communities of faith. We need leadership and vision, and we need it now.

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David Gushee is distinguished university professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University.

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Very insightful but disturbing column
written by Xenophon, January 04, 2010
Dr. Gushee has struck at my heart in his column. I am afraid that I completely agree with the couple he introduces to us in his opening. Frankly, worship in most Baptist churches leaves me cold. I prefer either the liturgical tradition found in the high church or the more substantive Charismatics such as The Churches of God headquartered in Cleveland, Tennessee.

Here is the key passage for me from Dr. Gushee's article above: " But they also seek the compelling spiritual vitality and passion most evident among charismatic Christians.

I asked Bill whether Baptists are in the running. Did they meet either of these criteria? He said that Baptist churches were usually neither deeply rooted in the ancient theological and liturgical traditions of the church, nor generally brimming with compelling spiritual vitality and passion. Ouch. "

I agree with Bill and Linda.

Here is the real rub for me. Being a conservative, I also completely agree with the punch line in Dr. Gushee's column that Baptists should maintain their own traditions that are rooted quite differently than either the high church or the Charismatic church.

For me, here is another key passage from Dr. Gushee: "As a Baptist, I pray we are not on a dead-end path. If that is not to be, we will have to find a way forward that has some kind of organic continuity with our past."

Again, I agree.

I feel terribly torn as I read and reflect upon Dr. Gushee's insights. I completely agree with Baptist theology, but there is no getting around the fact that I feel drawn to other worship styles and the people who practice these other approaches to worshiping God.
correction, fuller quote from above
written by Xenophon, January 04, 2010
I accidentally ommited the first part of the quote from Dr. Gushee's colunm in what I referred to in my first post as the key to his article. Here is the fuller quote that makes my point:

"Bill told me that in surveying the landscape he and his wife were hoping to find at least one of two following realities, both if possible: they seek a church deeply anchored in the theological-liturgical tradition of the historic church universal. But they also seek the compelling spiritual vitality and passion most evident among charismatic Christians."

I too want both, but I find both of these qualities that Bill and Linda find compelling in worship to be absent from most Baptist worship.
Sometimes it's hard to be Baptist on purpose.
written by AJC, January 04, 2010
I felt the same way about Baptist worship until I was introduced to the idea of "intentional worship", kind of a strange phrase, but it is what it says, it’s worship on purpose. In the Baptist churches I've been a part of with my husband, great emphasis is put on making worship flow and have meaning - rather than 4 hymns, 2 prayers, 3 points and a joke - NO OFFENSE to anyone who enjoys this type of worship, but as a 25 yr old first time mother, it's not my cup of tea and from what I've heard from others my age, it's not theirs either. I want my daughter growing up knowing what it is to worship, not just to go to church.

Part of my own problem was for a long time, I didn't really know why I was Baptist, I was never taught WHY it was important to be Baptist, just that it was important to be Baptist. Then I was part of a Wed. night study called Baptists and Religious Liberty written by Dr. William M. Pinson and suddenly I understood WHY it was important to be a Baptist. As Baptists, we've always been champions of freedom - local autonomy of the church, priesthood of the believer, religious liberty for all people- AND we’ve always believed in the Bible as the ultimate authority - not the Pope or anyone else. We are a unique bunch of people and sometimes I fear it’s this freedom to agree and disagree that makes us all act so ugly to each other. However, this freedom is so important in our worship because we are free to do church in any way as long as it's pleasing to God. We can observe Advent and Lent if we want to because they are beautiful and meaningful seasons, not because we're told to. We can do high church or praise and worship or a mixture of both. We can do a Taize service and a hymn singing service. We have the freedom to reach young and old, male and female, everyone. It’s not that one is right and the other is wrong, it’s about trying to be understanding of others and appreciate the way that they worship – even if it’s not our own preference.

I agree with Bill and Linda when they say, "Baptist churches were usually neither deeply rooted in the ancient theological and liturgical traditions of the church, nor generally brimming with compelling spiritual vitality and passion", but I don’t think it's because we’re Baptist, I think it's because we've been content to sit on our haunches for years and expect people to just come to us because "that's how it's always been". Yes, everyone used to get up early, go to Sunday School, Sunday morning worship, Sunday night worship, and Wednesday night prayer meeting - but that’s NOT the norm anymore, it hasn’t been for a long time and no matter how much we wish and hope, I highly doubt it will ever be that way again. It's 2010 not 1910, and the church is quickly becoming irrelevant in today's world. God has placed us all in His Church to reach His world. We’ve not only got to tell the world why we think the Baptist tradition is relevant, we’ve also got to still love them even if they’re NOT Baptist or even Christian.
Reinventing ourselves
written by chuckwarnock, January 04, 2010
I read Dr. Gushee's column with great interest as our church in Virginia observes the worship cycle of the Christian Year and I preach in a clerical robe each Sunday. Granted, part of our observance has to do with Virginia's heritage and the Episcopal tradition in this state-- I am not the only Baptist pastor to robe for worship in Virginia!

But it seems to me that in the great denominational struggle of the past quarter century, Baptists were pre-occupied with defining ourselves against our internal factions, rather than reinventing ourselves for succeeding generations. Southern Baptists (our church is dually aligned with the SBC and CBF) have a heritage of ministry to working class folks who, particularly after WWII, became more educated and affluent. But rather than adjust to an increasingly educated and upwardly mobile society, we fought battles about "fundamentals" and sought either to return to the early 1900s (the conservatives) or to the golden age of Baptists in the 1950s (the moderates).

We must redefine our four Baptist freedoms and infuse them with new meaning for today's world. Specifically, the priesthood of the believer can no longer be about just my individual access to God, but must also embrace my priestly responsibility to my community and the world. In Bible freedom, not only do we need to affirm our right and ability to read and interpret scripture, but we need to recognize and affirm the historic confessions of faith like the Apostles' Creed (I realize we are not a creedal people) as our way of saying "we too believe the historic doctrines of the faith." Certainly we would not compel personal allegiance to the creeds, but we should at least acknowledge that, like those before us, we too believe in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the church, the historic events in the life of Christ including the crucifixion and resurrection. We have tried to stand apart so long that we now look unconnected to the historic Church.

In both liturgy and spirit, we as Baptists need to expand our parameters to include both more mystery and more heart, while maintaining our love for Jesus as Savior and Lord. Not an easy task, but one some churches are attempting in this age of discontinuous change and uncertainty.

One Way
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 05, 2010
For true authentic Bible believing Baptist Christians there is but one way - the way of the cross! It is neither liturgical nor charismatic. It is hard, toilsome and sometimes lonely. It is committed to one thing and one thing only - obedience to the truth as it is in Jesus.

If a man does not find joy in this way, it is because his heart is hardened by sin. The man who seeks his joy in hand waving fanfare or solemn ritual is a superficial soul who knows little to nothing of the love of Christ.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
J.B. Gambrell
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 05, 2010
"The average Baptist is a plain, straight thinking person. He may be a great scholar, or a hod carrier, but, in religion, he takes on the complexion and manners of the New Testament. He believes in simplicity. He likes plain preaching and simple worship. If the choir, by any machination of the devil, falls under the lead of any professional musician and is turned to singing tunes with the delirium tremens, the average Baptist is grieved, and solaces his soul by singing 'How Firm a Foundation' or 'Amazing Grace'...The average Baptist takes no stock of Easter, and the like, not that he does not believe in the resurrection; not that people may not observe days; but, like Paul, he is skittish of these extras and prefers the plain, old, level Jordan road, with a steady incline up, all the way till it reaches the city of God." J. B. Gambrell, from The Baptist Standard, May 1907

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
We Must Change!
written by Bobby McCord, January 06, 2010
We must hurry up and change as Southern Baptists. We must conform to what Bill thinks we should be. He is judging Baptist churches with the view he gained from non baptist seminaries. We need to be more universal, more inclusive, more charismatic. Gushee's problem is that he keeps judging Southern Baptists by what his new age friends think instead of what God's Word says. Gushee couldn't cut it as a professor in a real Baptist college. Union University dropped him like a bad habit when he started trying to push his liberal anti bible veiws. Those who hold the opinion of Gushee and Bill need to stop judging Southern Baptists. If they dont like Southern Baptists they should get away from Southern Baptists because we will be better off without them.
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written by singer2, January 06, 2010
Bobby McCord--For your information, sir, David Gushee was held in high esteem by Union University. Until my retirement, I taught on the same faculty, was a fellow committee member, taught some of the same students. His colleagues were honored to have him, as was the administration, and the students were challenged by his classes. I know of several who remained after graduation to do grad work in ethics under Gushee. He did not leave Union under the conditions you allege. Union is a conservative university, and Gushee challenged us all to re-examine our ethics for Christian authenticity. You have the right to disagree with him, as you have with me, but why would you claim something of which you have no knowlege?
R Joiner
wrong
written by Bobby McCord, January 06, 2010
I attended classes at Union and a class in ethics taught by Gushee in which he didn't challenge us he tried to influence us with his views. You are wrong!
How Ironic!
written by FWN, January 06, 2010
Bobby McCord:

Ironically, you said:

“Those who hold the opinion of Gushee and Bill need to stop judging Southern Baptists. If they dont like Southern Baptists they should get away from Southern Baptists because we will be better off without them.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, Bobby, but this article is on the ABP, a MODERATE BAPTIST website that was created expressly to, as you would put it, “get away from Southern Baptists,” Indeed, most of us have tried to “kick the dust off our feet” (Matthew 10:14) before the SBC for a long time. Unfortunately, folks like you won’t let us. You insist on hanging out here with real Baptists in a vain attempt to justify your own self-righteousness and discredited theology.

With a statement like that, are you trying to add “hypocrisy” to the list of your other sins?
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written by singer2, January 07, 2010
Bobby, so your only way of formulating your opinion has been three classes you took under Dr. Gushee, and on the other side, I have the esteem in which he was held by hosts of Union students and faculty, many of whom were quite conservative, but appreciated being challenged. That leaves a major point unanswered, your assertion that the university "dropped him like a bad habit." It is quite clear now that that tale was constructed to add a bit of color to your opinion. I suggest, then, that we drop this and return to something closer to the original article, that of a renewed sense of worship, drawn from the freshness of the early church. In those fellowships, the corporate consideration of personal sins, and the collective pardoning of sins was a regular practice. I submit that this would be a healthy practice for our churches, and that the act of praying and praising God together would make such a difference that the old conservative/moderate breach would be bridged. The young people in our universities are ready for this. It is my generation, the people that suffered the wounds and wrested power, that cannot forget, forgive, nor even acknowledge that the other side exists. I am excited by my experiences with these young people--I see them discovering a sense of the joy and order of scripture-based worship in which the early church was absorbed. Therein lies the hope, not in these piddling controversies and false charges.
It wasn't Gushee who turned Southwestern
written by JeffF, January 07, 2010
Seminary from a metropolis to a ghost town in less than two decades. Wonder who needs to be dropped like a bad habit there. Hmmmmmm.
just here to help
written by Bobby McCord, January 07, 2010
I realize this is a LIBERAL web site, not moderate, as you claim. I am conservative. Someone has to stand for truth even when you dont like it. By the way I am glad you have left the Southern Baptist Convention. My only prayer is that more so called moderates will follow you. I just wish you would stop using the name Baptist. It is decieving many who think this is a real Baptist web site. By the professor, I do judge the class by the teacher and who he hangs with.
Carthartic?
written by jonluttrell, January 11, 2010
Sometimes I wonder if these posts are meant to be light-hearted attempts to make us laugh at purposeful misinterpretations of the Baptist tradition.
Being new to the site, I was going to "let age speak, and many years teach wisdom," but Elihu was right. Perhaps we should revisit the aforementioned freedoms of the Baptist tradition, and then reevaluate our judgments of others' doctrine. Failure to do this is a failure to be "a real Baptist." In this failing we become no better, and perhaps worse, than the institutions from which we dissented long ago.
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written by robber, January 14, 2010
I'm quick to shoot down a Gushee article when I don't like it, so I need to say that this was one of Gushee's best, in my opinion. Thought provoking, probing, and balanced. Nice job. Wish I had the answers.

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