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Opinion: Haiti, Pat Robertson, and the instinct to explain evil Print E-mail
By David Gushee   
Monday, January 18, 2010

(ABP) -- Thousands of Haitians were dead, millions were displaced, and Pat Robertson responded last week by saying, “Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, ‘We will serve you if you’ll get us free from the French.’ True story. And so the devil said, ‘Okay, it’s a deal.’”

This is not the first time that Pat Robertson has offered such explanations for disaster. In 2005, Robertson attributed Hurricane Katrina to God’s wrath on America for legalized abortion. Also in 2005, he warned little Dover, Pennsylvania, that it faced God’s wrath because its citizens voted out school board members who wanted schools to teach intelligent-design principles that challenge evolution.

The late Jerry Falwell made news after 9/11 with a similar explanatory model for those terrible attacks. While visiting Pat Robertson on the latter's "700 Club" broadcast, and with Robertson nodding his assent, Falwell said, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, ‘you helped this happen.’” Eventually Falwell apologized for these particular comments.

It is easy to poke fun, or express outrage, at comments such as these. Certainly for those who only (choose to) know Christianity by the statements of its most extreme “representatives,” the witness of Christ is desperately damaged.

But this pattern of thinking is well-established enough that it deserves more careful reflection. There is some instinct embedded here that needs to be identified so that it can be rejected, once and for all.

I would like to suggest that the pattern is a theocratic theology of the nation combined with a Deuteronomistic theology of history and linked to a reactionary social ethics.

Many conservative Christian leaders, especially of the last generation, preached and wrote about America as if we were the new Israel, the chosen people, in a special and unique relationship with God. They were reading the Old Testament so as to transfer (one version of) its theology of Israel to the United States.

When these Christian Right leaders were happy with America or its leaders for doing things they liked, they would say that God was blessing America. But, inevitably, when something happened to the United States that was painful, or when certain Americans did something that people like Falwell and Robertson did not like, the paradigm served just as well for an attribution of blame or judgment.

God has an elect nation. God will bless that nation as long as it does God’s will, but will curse that nation when it violates God’s will. This is the theology that courses through the book of Deuteronomy and much of the rest of the Old Testament, in relation to the chosen nation of Israel. This theology is also challenged elsewhere in the Old Testament, as in the book of Job. Preachers like Robertson and Falwell have simplistically applied the Deuteronomy paradigm to the United States while failing to wrestle with other dimensions of the biblical witness.

Robertson’s comments about Haiti show that he applies the same paradigm to other nations too. Robertson views God as pouring out divine wrath on Haiti just as on the United States or any other nation that violates God’s will.

The reactionary-social-ethics piece plugs in at this point. Robertson seemed to be implying in his comments last week that somehow Haiti only won its freedom from slavery 200 years ago through a pact with the devil -- ergo, it earned God’s wrath. Falwell’s infamous comments in 2001 attributed blame to every social movement that he disliked at the time -- all of them to his political left.

The problem of evil is the ultimate theological challenge. Many brilliant minds have wrestled to explain how so much disastrous evil, so much sorrow, so much suffering, can exist in a world created and sustained by a loving God.

It is not wrong to ask such questions. But most explanations create more theological problems than they solve, and involve making claims beyond the competence of the human mind, as the book of Job so clearly shows. The best response to evil seems to be to weep with those who weep, while working alongside them to repair broken lives, broken societies, and our broken world.

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David Gushee is distinguished university professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University.

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Are some things missing here?
written by Weiss, January 18, 2010
1. Am I missing something here? While reading the article, all of a sudden I read "30." Is this a multi-part article? Did something get cut in editing? It seems like the article was just getting started when it ended.

2. Was Pat Robertson here telling a factual story or a metaphorical one, i.e., a fable, intended to relate a truth or lesson, or a fairy tale, to entertain. His quote of the devil, saying "OK, it's a deal," doesn't determine the answer, as quotations are a legitimate story telling technique.

If the former, and he was intending to imply something morally wrong in the overthrow of the French by the slaves and contrary to Romans 13 and I Peter 2, I think he would have expressed an opinion he may have and have raised a legitimate subject for discussion.
David's final sentence . . .
written by jbird, January 18, 2010
Right on!
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written by KT2005, January 18, 2010
The author is most certainly right when he says evil is a difficult theological problem. Improper theology can cause a world of harm. Here is what I believe the Bible says.

All natural disaster is a form of God's judgment upon humanity in general for sin (Genesis 3:17). The "ground" or earth is cursed. Every natural disaster is judgment upon sinful mankind. Now obviously God has the authority to judge any nation for particular sin (Sodom and Gomorrah, or Amos 1-2). These prior verses as well as Revelation 11:15-18 show this to be true. The beginning of Luke 13 demonstrates that not everyone who dies in natural tragedy is being punished for individual sin. Christ says current judgment of God through natural disaster should remind everyone to repent for without forgiveness we will all be destroyed. The pain caused by the earth's curse also effects believers, but for their good. Romans 8:28 says all things work for our good. A thorn in the flesh, pain, and suffering are tools used by God to remind us of our need for Him. Difficult circumstances draw us closer to our Lord as His power, grace, and guidance uphold and protect us. . . even in death, which for the believer is the door to eternal life.

Unfortunately, most believers do not see that all natural disasters as a sign of God's judgment upon a world in rebellion against His holiness. Every natural disaster should remind us that a greater catastrophe called Hell awaits all unrepentant hearts. Thus the tragedy of Haiti should make us all pause and dwell on the fact that God takes sin VERY seriously.
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written by bamboo, January 19, 2010
Mr. Gushee, I think your audience missed your points.

Xenophon, I read your last post touting the personal and spiritual development afforded by being enslaved. It is only more incredible that you wrote this post on Martin Luther King Day.
the beauty of a rose
written by Xenophon, January 19, 2010
Perhaps this metaphor might help you, Bamboo. When a rose is crushed, only then is its fullest and most penetrating bouquet released.

Incidentally, I chose the example that I did just to demonstrate the horror that humanitarians feel at the prospect of someone suffering even if they develop from their suffering. Your response verified my intuition. Another example that reveals differing sensibilities on these issues is how we react to the death of Sydney Carton in *The Tale of Two Cities.* Incidentally, the metaphor of the rose was told to me by the late Mike Arons, the humanistic psychologist. His take on suffering was very close to mine. That is why I qualified my generalizations about folks on the left in my comments on the other article.
Excpet You Repent You Will All Likewise Perish
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 19, 2010
Authentic Baptists take the Bible as the standard of truth. They don't care one iota for the philosophies of man on the "problem of evil" or any other subject.

The Bible everywhere makes it clear that God is in absolute control of what we call "nature". We don't necessarily know why God does what He does through nature at any given place or moment in time, but we do know that He does it. That is why the men of old, who actually believed the Bible to be true, called all such events "Acts of God." Whatever else we can say about the Haiti earthquake, we can say that God did it.

We also know that Jesus, when asked about certain calamities that had befallen certain men, warned us all:

"Except you repent, you will all likewise perish."

Obviously, that does not mean we will all experience having the tower of Siloam fall on us nor have Pilate mingle our blood with our sacrifices. It must mean that we will experience the same trauma that those who experienced those things did, if we don't repent.

Men like Mr. Gushee are good at pointing to the stupidity of a self-evident crackpot like Pat Robertson, but they are short on answers. The word of God gives answers and the answer of the Word to human calamity is,

"Except you repent, you will all likewise perish."

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
This is what you believe?
written by GalapagosPete, January 20, 2010
That your god kills infants?

And you're good with this.

Amazing.
Fault Line At Fault
written by southwerk, January 20, 2010
I can't help but think that Haiti's location on a fault line has more to do with the disaster than God bearing a 200 year old grudge.
replies to GalapagosPete & southwerk
written by Xenophon, January 20, 2010
In reply to GalapagosPete, infants and small children go to Heaven upon dying according to Christian belief. So, why not be good with that, as you put it? God is merciful even in the horrors of living in a fallen world where death and suffering are the natural outgrowths of a world in rebellion against him.

In reply to southwerk, how did that fault line get there and produce such an abrupt movement causing an earthquake? If you believe in God, could he have made a world without fault lines or softened how tectonic plates shift?

What we have to look for is what is God's purpose in this tragedy for each of us, not so much as a 200 year old grudge. Do you think God has a purpose in everything he does or allows to happen? Can there be chance occurrences as you seem to suggest if monotheism is true?
Galapagos
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 20, 2010
GalapagosPete,

You asked: "your god kills infants?"

My God is both the giver and taker of life. Much rather had I believe in a God who kills infants when He deems it wise to do so rather than the three obvious and only alternatives:

A. A god who is willing to save infants but is incapable of doing so.

B. A god who is capable of saving them but just stands by and watches them die because He is not willing to save them and that for no reason.

C. No god at all.

I worship the God of Jesus Christ which is the God of the Scripture, Who spoke by the mouth of His servant Moses:

"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Another Option
written by hikerbiker, January 20, 2010
Mark,

It is possible that you have left out at least one option:

D. A God who created a dynamic world and universe in which earth changing and universe changing processes like super mega black holes (that may be capable of birthing new galaxies) and plate tectonics (which causes earthquakes and volcanoes but also creates mountains, continents and oceans) cause both good and suffering for humankind.

When we gaze into the night sky, the heavens declare the glory and the awesomeness of God. When we see the vastness and the complexity of the universe, we are often compelled to wonder, “How could all of this exist without a Creator God who has a plan and a purpose?” The beauty and the grandeur of the universe can point us to God, but who wants to be consumed by a black hole or vaporized by a super nova? These are, I believe, part of the ongoing creative processes of our Creator God. The creative processes of our God of love are inherently good, but if we happen to be too close to these processes human suffering is very likely.

In similar ways, plate tectonics is an ongoing creative process. Without plate tectonics the earth would be a very different place. We might not have mountains and valleys and oceans, and such a planet might not be capable of supporting life. Earthquakes and volcanoes are part of this creative process, but they undoubtedly cause human suffering.

If we believe that God is actually working in these creative/destructive forces, we do tend to wonder how our inspired images of a God of love can be reconciled with the God who is behind the creative and destructive forces of the universe.

My personal answer (developed through years of prayer, study of the Bible, scientific study, and philosophical study): We have a dynamic, creative, and personal God of love who created the universe and is still creating. This God is revealed to us most personally and powerfully through Jesus Christ, our Savior. God is not a disinterested creator who set the universe in motion and left it to its own devices eons ago; God is living and active in our world and universe today, but God’s activity and God’s purposes are far from our comprehension. In ways that we may never understand on this side of eternity, God often allows human suffering in the wake creative processes set in motion by God. To constantly interrupt these natural processes would be to drastically change the laws of nature and consequently, drastically change the world and universe in which we live (a world created for us by our loving God). I believe God grieves along with us when human suffering is caused by any natural disaster such as the earthquake in Haiti, but our world would be very different and possibly uninhabitable without these natural processes set in motion by God. Does that mean that God cannot or does not sometimes intervene when his broader purposes can be accomplished by intervention? Certainly not. I also believe that we, humans, can worsen the effects of natural processes through carelessness, overconsumption, and pollution (and possibly moderate the effects through conservation and good stewardship).

Similarly, much human suffering is the natural consequence of human sin. If I were beat my children out of rage, they could be physically injured and their psyche could be affected in ways that would cause them untold troubles in the years to come. If I were take out a gun and shoot someone, I would have injured or killed another human being and ruined a lot of other people’s lives including the family of the victim, my family’s lives and my own. A kind of compound interest is also applied as the effects of my sins are repeated and compounded in generations to come (unless those who come after me see the error of my ways and the effects of my sins and choose life and health and redemption).

God could have created a world that would not be affected by my sin, because he could have created humans without free will—the ability to follow or reject God, to choose wisely or choose poorly. Such creations, however, would be less than human; they would be robotic, preprogrammed to always obey. Obedience that is not chosen is different from love, though. Apparently, God wanted us to have the ability to choose love and faith and obedience. The result is that we can also choose to disobey in some very horrible ways that cause a lot of suffering for our fellow human beings.

Could the natural consequences of sin be what Pat Robertson is talking about when he says the people of Haiti “got together and swore a pact to the devil” and now they are suffering the consequences through the effects of the earthquake? I don’t think so. I think that Robertson and many others on the far right have a very different view of God. They seem to see God as vindictive and cruel. I see God as powerful, creative, loving, grieving at human suffering, and always seeking to redeem.
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written by KT2005, January 20, 2010
Hikerbiker,

With all due respect, your view does not answer these very difficult questions. To blame natural causes is insufficient because God made and sustains the natural world. You paint a view of a god who wishes he could help but alas cannot. The only way to justify such horrible events is to say that humanity deserves to be punished for their sin. To accept that all humans deserve eternal hell is to be at peace with lesser punishments like earthquakes.

Back to babies being killed. . . this is tough. The Bible says children are a blessing from the Lord. Sinful man does not deserve any blessings. If God chooses to take back a child He has given, that is His right. A lost man can require nothing from God but judgment. So a lost man losing a blessing he never deserved anyway is easy to explain. The bigger problem is when a child of God who is clothed in the righteousness of Christ has a child taken away. . . or is childless to begin with. I appeal again to Romans 8:28. All suffering for the believer serves a higher purpose and the end result will be good. How all of this will come about is often unknown in this life. In heaven we will understand all the whys. In this life we walk by faith not sight, fully trusting in the promises of the good God who saved our souls. And yes, we KNOW He is good because we have been born again by his grace.
Hikerbiker
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 20, 2010
You said,

"A God who created a dynamic world and universe in which earth changing and universe changing processes like super mega black holes (that may be capable of birthing new galaxies) and plate tectonics (which causes earthquakes and volcanoes but also creates mountains, continents and oceans) cause both good and suffering for humankind."

God most certainly did create a dynamic world. It is dynamic because He animates it by His power. Saying that since plate tectonics cause earthquakes therefore God didn't is like saying that since evaporation and condensation causes rain therefore God didn't.

No one, to my knowledge, denies that God uses intermediary processes to bring about events in the creation. What I deny is that God just stands back and watches it happen. As Jesus said,

"he makes it to rain."

Or as the 147 Psalm states,

"he causes his wind to blow."

If such passages as these are not meant to teach us that the physical creation is under God's direct and constant supervision, then please tell me exactly what do they teach?

By the way, your "D" is no different in principle than my "B". And earthquakes are not the natural result of sin. I won't even say they are necessarily a punishment for sin, though there is certainly that possibility. Earthquakes occur when God reaches down and shakes the ground, for whatever reason He, in His wisdom, chooses to do so.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
John Wesley On Earthquakes
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 21, 2010
Here is an interesting sermon by John Wesley on this subject.

http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umhistory/wesley/sermons/129/

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
It is interesting that you have all given in to Gushee's premise that we all have the instinct to try to explain evil. How about his conclusion: greater minds than our have tried to solve the problem and inevitably come up short, so why not just give and take care of suffering people?
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
Oh, yes, and that this "embedded" instinct "needs to be... rejected, once and for all." How about commenting on these aspects of Gushee's conclusion.
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
The Book of Job, which Gushee cites twice -- incorrectly, actually shows the benefit of wrestling with these kinds of questions. (Perhaps this is part of the point of the account of Jacob wrestling with the Lord and coming away with an ever-present reminder of his humanness, mortality, and limitedness.) Had Job never been faced with tragedy and had he not wrestled with it before men and God, he would never have known God as deeply as he obviously did at the end of the account.
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
At one point in my wrestling with God's call to pastoral ministry, I had to consider whether or not I was hearing Him correctly in light of my many faults, errors, and even willful sins. The wise senior pastor from whom I sought counsel offered this, "I wouldn't want a pastor who never had to struggle with the kinds of things I have to struggle with." (Of course, we wouldn't want a pastor who never conquered or recovered or moved beyond them either, right?)
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
Anyway, Gushee says, "It's not wrong to ask such questions," but he implies that it's wrong to try to answer them. Is that a legitmate point?
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
Since Gushee is critical of Robertson for his commentary, it might be worth noting the following:

The official Haitian website for "Celebrating the 200th Anniversary of the Haitian Revolution" (Haiti: the First Black Republic in the World), has a section titled, "The History of Haiti and the Haitian Revolution" in which Haitians placed the following account:
A man named Boukman, another houngan, organized on August 14, 1791, a meeting with the slaves in the mountains of the North. This meeting took the form of a Voodoo ceremony in the Bois Caiman in the northern mountains of the island. It was raining and the sky was raging with clouds; the slaves then started confessing their resentment of their condition. A woman started dancing languorously in the crowd, taken by the spirits of the loas. With a knife in her hand, she cut the throat of a pig and distributed the blood to all the participants of the meeting who swore to kill all the whites on the island...
While there is no mention of "the Devil," there is mention of the woman "taken by the spirits of the loas." The loas are deities subordinate to the great Voodoo god, Bondyè. Since Bondyè does not get involved in human affairs, Voodoo worship is directed to the Loas. If one takes Scripture seriously, with whom would these spirits be identified? And if they are nothing more than mute idols, who does Scripture say is behind idols? The point, of course, being that if Haitians believe this event happened and share it as truth, what should others make of it? Should Pat Robertson be condemned for his understanding of it?
pjerwin
written by Mark Osgatharp, January 21, 2010
pjerwin,

You asked: "Anyway, Gushee says, "It's not wrong to ask such questions," but he implies that it's wrong to try to answer them. Is that a legitmate point?"

It is legitimate only in the sense that since we, not being prophets cannot say with certainly why God did in Haitai. Mr. Robertson says it was because of some pact that they made over 200 years ago. Maybe it was. Or maybe it was because they made a pact with the Pope, who is no less Satanic than voodoo.

However, to imply, as does Mr. Gushee, that we have no answers is not legitimate at all. We do have the answer that the Scripture gives for all such things - they are acts of God. And though we may not know the precise reasons for which God did what He did, I think that only a fool would fail to see it as a severe judgment.

And again, when we face the reality of such things we must always remember the words of the Lord:

"Except you repent you will all likewise perish."

No exceptions.

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
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written by pjerwin, January 21, 2010
And since all of Jim Denison's editorials are closed to comment, we might also note the following from his articles on this subject:

Jim Denison wasn't very careful in his criticism of Robertson. He said that "Robertson's history is a bit fuzzy: he claims that this 1791 event occurred during the reign of Napoleon III, who didn't come to power until 1848." But what did Robertson actually say? "They were under the heel of the French, uh, ya know, Napoleon III or whatever..." I'm no Robertson apologist, but if Denison had actually watched the segment he should have easily done better.

It's interesting how Denison handled the Voodoo priest’s alleged prayer at the Voodoo ceremony, too.

"The god who created the earth; who created the sun that gives us light. The god who holds up the ocean; who makes the thunder roar. Our god who has ears to hear. You who are hidden in the clouds; who watch us from where you are. You see all that the white has made us suffer. The white man's god asks him to commit crimes. But the god within us wants to do good. Our god, who is so good, so just, he orders us to revenge our wrongs. It's he who will direct our arms and bring us the victory. It's he who will assist us. We all should throw away the image of the white men's god, who is so pitiless. Listen to the voice for liberty that speaks in all our hearts."
Now, remember that Bondyè, the highest god on the Voodoo pantheon, has no interest and does not interfere in human affairs, so either this prayer is not addressed to their greatest god or the prayer is fictional. Yet Denison offers, "Europeans saw Boukman's rejection of ‘the white man’s god’ as a rejection of the God of the Bible." So, is Denison suggesting that the Voodoo priest was praying to the God of the Bible? Further, "When he prayed to a different god, they claimed that he prayed to the devil." If one prays to a different god than the God of the Bible, the one and only true God, then to what/whom is he or she praying? An idol at best or at worst what, according to Scripture, lies behind an idol -- a demon. "So," Denison concludes, "what do we know for sure? There was a ceremony on August 14, 1791 that sparked the rebellion in Haiti. It probably involved the ritual slaughter of a pig and incorporated Voodoo traditions. Nothing more can be known with certainty." Except, of course, that Voodoo is a syncretistic religion, mixing East African Religions with Roman Catholicism, much like mixing the worship of Ba'al and YHWH. It's idolatry and the worship of the demons behind them.
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written by Ted Branson, January 22, 2010
Jim Denison's Robertson/Haiti article did not invite comments, so I'll post mine here. He said: "The alleged 1791 Haitian pact with the devil would put our Father on the side of slavery and Satan on the side of those seeking freedom. The reverse is actually the case. Satan is a "murderer from the beginning" (John 8:44), a thief who "comes only to steal and kill and destroy" (John 10:10) and seeks to make us "slaves to sin" (Rom. 6:17). Satan enslaves. God liberates."

This does not describe the Satan described in the Bible at all. We are repeatedly warned that he is as an angel of light, and he is the ruler of this world, by God’s allowance for now. He can offer anyone the comforts, pleasures, and power of this world. He even tempted Jesus with them. And he can deliver, as long as God doesn’t intervene, which He often doesn’t. And Satan giving them what they asked for (if that is what they did) doesn’t make him any less murderous, as his ultimate goal is to become our god and to keep us from God, whatever it takes. In fact, what we want is very often perfect for keeping us from needing God and turning to him with all of our heart. How many times in the OT did God finally relent and give the people what they wanted, to their destruction, or at least great misery. And, our God is so loving, thoughtful, intelligent and powerful that He may very well allow slavery to a people or a person in order to break their heart for their very salvation!
Denison’s response, in fact, feeds right into the hands of those who teach counterfeit Christianity, coming full circle, who serve...Satan.
Just a few friendly but very serious thoughts from a brother, hopefully. We can’t afford for your publication to make these kinds of errors, without response, when you have such a wide audience, even if it has the appearance of siding with someone whom most of the world is attacking.
Xenophon and Mark Osgatharp - good Christians
written by GalapagosPete, January 26, 2010
Got it: baby murder = good thing to Christians. Glad you've cleared that up. Next time we read about a baby being murdered, or even just dying horribly in an accident, we'll just all assume you're both laughing and dancing for joy because it's with its Father in Heaven.

Although, strangely, I never see people smiling happily at the funerals of their children–even Christians. In fact, they often seem positively depressed! Guess they're not as enlightened as you two are.

You're a real pair of psychopaths. You should get a room together, preferably un-reinforced concrete near an earthquake fault.
GalapagosPete misrepresenting views of others
written by MooseInAHat, January 26, 2010
GalapagosPete said:
"Got it: baby murder = good thing to Christians. [etc etc]."

Where did anyone on this thread say that "baby murder" is a "good thing?"

Your entire post was pretty harsh and cynical, not to mention it's a caricature and inaccurate depiction of what Christians believe.

I guess by your way of looking at things, a dead baby *not* living in heaven with God, but simply rotting in the ground (no afterlife), is supposed to be a more comforting idea to the bereaved? That's a very strange way of looking at things.
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written by pjerwin, January 27, 2010
Wow, GalapagosPete, pretty thoughtful and intellectual response.

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