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Opinion: Online dating can work -- even for a clergywoman Print E-mail
By Amy Grizzle   
Friday, February 12, 2010

(ABP) -- “So ... you, like, pray and stuff?”

Um, yes. I pray and stuff. As an ordained Baptist minister, it kind of, like, goes with the territory.

Actually, I responded more politely than that. At least I had to give the guy credit for attempting to engage my professional life as a clergywoman. Curious enough to sustain conversation until I could finish my chicken piccata -- and the misery of another ill-fated blind date -- I asked about his faith background. He grew up going to Catholic schools (not churches) and now he subscribed, as you would an annual magazine subscription, to Chinese Taoism (about which he could say very little).

Check, please.

Another day, another awkward blind date, another hilarious dating story to share with my married co-workers over lunch. Christians who are single are often encouraged to go to church to meet someone of faith and character. So, where do single clergypersons go to meet their potential soul mate? We can’t date in our churches, our place of employment and ministry. “Rev. Amy Grizzle: single and searching” didn’t seem like a good idea for a business card. Though happy with who I was as a single person, I still wanted to find someone with whom to share life.

Eager to encourage my college roommate who wanted to try an online dating service but was too embarrassed, I joined eHarmony with her. Granted, I was skeptical. What intelligent person wouldn’t be? It seemed impersonal, if not dehumanizing. And who knows what kind of crazy people you might meet online?

Yet, among scads of online dating services, including a number of “Christian” ones, eHarmony seemed safe and responsible. The founder, Neil Clark Warren, holds an M.Div. from Princeton and a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Chicago. Since the first three months were free, I figured I had nothing to lose. If all else failed, I’d at least have more lunch-hour tales of dating-sure-to-go-wrong.

So I sat down one night to sign up. Despite being irritated at how long it took to complete, I was impressed that a personality inventory of an online dating service could rival the many personality and spiritual-gifts inventories I took in college and seminary. Away I clicked, reminding myself not to think too hard about answers and to go with my first response. When finished, I was surprised at the thorough, intelligent and accurate profile it had created. It was right in line with other assessments I had completed and reflected realities I knew to be true about myself.

Next came my “match” settings. What geographical radius did I want it to search? I could choose a 30-mile radius of practically any point on Earth. But I figured the Dallas metroplex ought to be adequate to start with. The “religion” section was the most debatable. I selected “Christian” and opted to list "Baptist" as my denomination, although I knew both categories incorporated a broad spectrum of possibilities. I worried about the Baptist stereotype turning people away or that a female Baptist minister would be matched with a fundamentalist Baptist. Finally, it asked me to “click here” if I wanted the database to identify potential matches.

I winced and clicked. As the database began processing my information, I stared at the blank screen, half expecting a message to pop up saying, “We’re sorry, there are zero available matches.” Seriously? After swallowing my pride to try an online dating service and investing hours of my time, this is what I get? I was ready to quit before eHarmony could begin.

Three years, hundreds of matches and a few dates later, I matched with “Sean from Bellaire, Texas.” Sean and I will marry on April 10, almost two years after our initial eHarmony match.

How did I go from wanting to pull the plug to finding a fiancé online? Beyond knowing God works in wonderfully unexpected ways, I got a little help from my friends. I lamented and laughed with them as they encouraged patience and persistence while helping me hone my profile to sound “more like Amy and less like an automated response machine.” I matched with a lot of “compatible” men. Some I was clearly not interested in, although I’m confident there are women out there who like guys who pose for pictures with parrots on their shoulders, claim they talk with dolphins or say they “live to hug my Harley Davidson every weekend.”

I learned to “close” matches that didn’t make sense. While he might be a nice guy, if his passion is providing a foster home for the cat-rescue society, it’s not going to work if I’m allergic to cats. I also learned a service like eHarmony can be hard on the ego. Coming home to find several matches you actually liked had “closed” you can be tough to take after a hard day. I reminded myself to have a sense of humor about it and not to take it personally. I also learned I needed Sabbaths from eHarmony occasionally so it didn’t consume me.

While you won’t see Sean and me on an eHarmony commercial any time soon, I’m glad I signed up for the adventure of online dating. It’s important to follow some common-sense guidelines, and it doesn’t work for everyone. But if you decide to give it a try, just remind yourself daily that you are a beloved child of God. Then click away at that online personality inventory.

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Amy Grizzle is minister to adults at South Main Baptist Church in Houston, Texas.

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written by Bobby McCord, February 14, 2010
This article is so ridiculous it is not even worth commenting on. From the term clergywoman (which you won't find in the Bible) to her participating in on line dating, it gets worse and worse. My "prayers and stuff" are with the misled souls who sit under her false teaching.
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written by Deacon Egg, February 14, 2010
This article is a very insighful and candid look at the difficult task of dating in 2010. Ms Grizzle gives good advice and guidlines to follow when using this method of meeting potential "matches". She offers hope and practical advise for singles in a world that sometimes offers very little. She encourages us all to "remind yourself daily that you are a beloved child of God". Great article of hope even for a guy that has been very happily married for 36 years.
Chill Bobby
written by Nathan Barnes, February 14, 2010
The Dixie Chicks aren't mentioned in the Bible, either.

You go girl.
Get a grip on life.
written by mcskinny, February 15, 2010
Mr McCord, Where is "clergyman" or "clergy" anything mentioned in the Bible? Prophetess is mentioned a number of times. Should you care to count or admit it, there are more mentions of God using women in leadership roles in his work than there are prohibitions against women in leadership roles. Oh BTW, speaking of false teachings, the 2000BFM does not count as a Biblical prohibition against women in leadership roles.
Charlie Mac
Charlie Mac
its up to you
written by Bobby McCord, February 15, 2010
If you want a woman pastor whose main concern is the ills of on line dating while we face tremendous threats to the Faith in our culture, that's up to you. I'll take a man of God preaching the Word of God to the People of God. Keep attending the Circus you will enjoy the show the clowns put on.
Mating is a very important matter, part 1
written by Xenophon, February 15, 2010
I appreciate the insights and experiences that Ms. Grizzle recounted for us in her article. I certainly wish her well in her marriage. Apart from the question of how women should serve God, how people select their mates is a vital issue that we all need to be more aware of. For some reason, we train our children to earn a living, but we do not carefully teach them how to select a mate, which is after our decision to accept Christ as Savior possibly the most important decision that we will ever make. Dating and courtship are especially treacherous endeavors that we simply throw young people into without much warning.

Jane Austen observed in her novels that we are prone to being viscerally attracted to the wrong person and overlooking the more compatible person in our midst. In her novels, which are extremely insightful, the heroine came to her senses in the end and married the man she belonged with. Unfortunately, real life does not always work out that way. In fact, it usually does not, hence one big reason for the sky-high divorce rates that we have been experiencing since divorce laws were liberalized.

Why do people end up with the wrong person so often? Philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer pointed to the underlying reason, as he said, "what makes for balanced, healthy children also makes for unhappy parents." Opposites attract. That seems to be especially true for women considering studies on the subject. Women also, contrary to conventional wisdom, rely more on sexual attraction than do men in selecting a mate. This is because women have a high threshold for sexual attraction and men have a low threshold, which is in accord with common sense. But since this is so, women need to feel a very high level of sexual attraction for a particular man to feel "in love" with him. This is especially deceptive for females since they tend to have a much more difficult time separating romantic love from sexual interest. So, when a woman meets a man who is similar in temperament, interests, religious belief, socio-economic background, racial and ethnic heritage, educational level, and a host a of other factors where similarity is much more likely to lead to a relatively happy marriage, the woman might like and admire such a man, but is also likely to feel that "something is missing" or that she just "does not love him." That is because, as Schopenhauer observed and modern science is validating, women are drawn to men who have little in common with them genetically and so the children who are later conceived are less likely to have the genetic flaws of either parent magnified as they might if the parents were more alike genetically. Men, on the other hand, can feel sexual attraction for a broad range of females. They can hold out for a female they like personally. The trick for the man is getting a woman they hold in high regard to respond favorably.

But the other side of the Schopenhauer adage also is true. While people who are different can complement each other and pick up where the other leaves off so that the household is strengthened from the diversity of interests and talents, it is even more true that differences breed conflict. As Neal Clark Warren correctly observes, "opposites attract, then they attack." And the social science evidence bears out Schopenhauer and Clark's insights. Couples who share fewer temperamental traits and have different backgrounds report being less happily married than those who are more similar.

Mating is a very important matter, part 2
written by Xenophon, February 15, 2010
So, that is why we have e-Harmony, and that is why their approach in principle is better since they focus on compatibility (read similarity), not attraction (which is based on magnifying differences). I have taken the e-Harmony personality tests, and they did not accurately assess my personality at all. That was several years ago, so perhaps they have improved their tests since that time. One very good temperament test is the Big 5. This test can be taken at outofservice. com. Another good one, in my opinion, is the Myers-Briggs temperament test based on the temperament typology updated from ancient Greece by the psychologist Carl Jung. Here is one version of it that can be taken online:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Do I ask females whom I meet and have some interest in to take these tests? Yes. But studying the temperament types and having experience in marriage and dating, I can usually correctly categorize women, and people generally. My intuitions have always been verified by the test. Have I rejected a pretty and personable girl simply because she was an incompatible type? Yes. I know from hard experience that the females who are usually attracted to me and overtly flirt with me are sanguines (SP in the Myers Briggs test) and while they are very alluring to me, they will not be suitable for me nor I for them in the long-run.

I suspect that many of the differences and annoyances that we experience on this website are due to temperamental differences. It is my guess that most Evangelical or Fundamentalist Christians are choleric (SJ in the Myers-Briggs test) and the more liberal Christians tend to be melancholies (NF) or, at least, more in those directions. I would also guess that people who are more skeptical by nature are more phlegmatic (NT). Once we realize that we are hooked up differently, our brain chemistry is just different, then perhaps we can see things as someone else sees them and be more understanding of their primal emotions that shape their perspectives.

In any case, one must put a lot more care into selecting a mate than simply feeling a zing up the leg or disaster could be waiting down the line.
Main Concern?
written by mcskinny, February 15, 2010
I missed the part where dating was Pastor Amy's 'main' concern. I do not believe God will ask me (or you) whether you sat under the preaching of a certain gender, but rather did you learn enough to be an effective witness for Him. Where the circus and the clowns come in I haven't a clue.
Charlie Mac
I'll listen to Amy
written by Slick, February 19, 2010
I'm sure she is educated and called to the ministry. I suspect I'll have a deeper and more meaningful experience than by listening to relatively ignorant, uneducated babble from the likes of Bobby, KT, and Ken. The Bible is more than just surface understanding of the KJV. I thought it was a most interesting article. Like Charlie Mac, I also noticed Bobby's (did he even finish high school) twisting and misinterpretation of her comments.
Great article Amy
written by mjanb, February 20, 2010
Amy, this was a great article. Mr Bobby McCord's comments so disappoint me. Definitely, he decided he has the right to cast that FIRST STONE and decided that he can be a "Judge"...shame on him. We all need to pray for him. I experienced & observed your work at Wilshire and you live your Faith.
One more thing Mr McCord??
written by mjanb, February 20, 2010
Is the Great Commission directed only at men?? Personally, I just don't believe it is.
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written by semstu12, February 23, 2010
amy- it was a wonderful and well thought out article. congrats on finding a successful match and the best to your future.

mr. mccord- if you look at baptist history, the earliest baptist had women as preachers. acts mentions women in leadership roles in the early church. the early church historians speak of women as leaders and clergy. protestantism in america has largely relied on women leading revivals. only in the last 100 years have we moved away from women in ministerial roles, which leads me to think that the concern is less about women being ministers and more about men holding on to some sort of power in a quickly growing, egalitarian society.

i'm proud to be a female seminary student and like i'm sure rev. grizzle would say, you'll be in my prayers.
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written by zorra, February 24, 2010
Neil Clark Warren is the former dean of Fuller Theological Seminary's Graduate School of Psychology (my alma mater), which is why the eHarmony personality questionnaires are so much like the "real" ones you were familiar with. Data (anonymous of course) from eHarmony questionnaires has been compliled and studied by Fuller graduate students in psychology and marriage and family ministries, resulting in a number of articles in peer-reviewed psych journals. Rev. Grizzle, best wishes to you and your fiance, and blessings on your ministry.
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written by Merion, May 26, 2010
Online dating is just another way to meet potential dates. As in real life, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff. There are so many pieces that need to fall into place to make that happen: chemistry, both being in "that place" at the same time, making a relationship one of your priorities, etc. My best friend and I figured it would take 50 or 100 dates before we found one guy we were interested in dating exclusively who was also interested in us. You can't meet two people, have it not work out, and think "online dating stinks." Besides I found a very interesting video, that can persuade everyone still skeptical about it http://www.videorolls.com/watch/Proof-That-Online-Dating-Works If you never try, you'll never know.

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