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By Ken Camp   
Tuesday, March 09, 2010

DALLAS (ABP) -- A Dallas church has changed its website to identify itself as inclusive of varied sexual orientations -- a move that potentially could put the congregation at odds with the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which previously has excluded another church over its embrace of openly gay leaders.

A March 6 article in the Dallas Morning News characterized the move by Royal Lane Baptist Church as the congregation coming “out of the closet” regarding its quietly welcoming stance toward gays and lesbians -- including allowing them to fill church leadership positions such as deacons.

“In effect, this is a collective coming out about who we are and have been for a long time,” Ruth May, vice chair of deacons, told the newspaper, which identified her as a lesbian.

Pastor David Matthews noted he was scheduled to meet with BGCT Executive Director Randel Everett and BGCT president David Lowrie on March 11, and he was reluctant to comment publicly prior to that meeting.

Matthews did confirm the accuracy of the Dallas Morning News report March 9, and he noted the website revision was approved by the church’s deacons Feb. 14.

“Royal Lane Baptist Church is an inclusive, multi-generational congregation joined in Christian community. We are a vibrant mosaic of varied racial identities, ethnicities, sexual orientations and denominational backgrounds,” the church’s website states.

The website also identifies the church as “an ecumenical Baptist congregation affiliated with the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and the Baptist General Convention of Texas.”

Royal Lane has been hesitant to use the term “welcoming and affirming” to describe its stance toward gays -- a term other gay-friendly churches have used in the past -- because “that term means such different things to different people,” Matthews added.

Members of Royal Lane have not voted to change the church’s mission statement,  bylaws or membership criteria, he emphasized. The website description is “simply a statement about who we are,” he said.

“We hope to maintain our connection to the BGCT and other Baptist groups with whom we relate, and we welcome conversations toward that end,” Matthews said.

BGCT officials declined to speculate how the state convention would respond to Royal Lane until after the face-to-face meeting. However, similar action by University Baptist Church in Austin in the 1990s prompted BGCT Executive Board action to exclude the church.

But this time, the Executive Board itself includes a director from the church in question -- Doug Washington, a member of Royal Lane. Members of the church also have served on the BGCT Executive Board staff at the Baptist Building.

In 1995, University Baptist Church ordained an openly gay deacon -- a move that caused the Austin Baptist Association to cut ties with the church. And in response to a motion introduced at the BGCT annual meeting that fall, the Texas state convention created a committee to study whether it should amend its constitution to disallow affiliation with churches that allow non-celibate homosexuals to serve as deacons or pastors.

The 1996 Messenger Seating Study Committee declined to recommend any constitutional change. However, the committee’s report -- subsequently affirmed by convention messengers -- stated: “The Bible teaches that the ideal for sexual behavior is the marital union between husband and wife and that all other sexual relations -- whether premarital, extramarital or homosexual -- are contrary to God’s purposes and thus sinful.”

A year later, the issue resurfaced when convention leaders became aware University Baptist Church posted on its website its affiliation with the BGCT, along with statements noting the church had ordained a gay deacon and made its facility available to a gay group.

That led the BGCT Administrative Committee to recommend -- and the Executive Board to approve -- a motion that the BGCT refuse any financial contributions from University Baptist Church and ask the church to stop identifying itself publicly as a BGCT-affiliated congregation.

University Baptist Church declined to contest its relationship with the BGCT by sending messengers to the annual meeting and risking a vote by fellow messengers to refuse to seat them. Subsequently, the church chose to discontinue its relationship with the BGCT.

Last year, Broadway Baptist Church in Fort Worth also declined to send messengers to the BGCT annual meeting after questions were raised about the church’s position on homosexuality.

In June 2009, the Southern Baptist Convention severed its relationship with Broadway over the church’s perceived toleration of gay members, even though a letter sent by a church representative to the SBC Executive Committee’s general counsel stated: “Broadway never has taken any church action to affirm, approve or endorse homosexual behavior.”

Prior to the 2009 BGCT annual meeting, in anticipation of a challenge from the convention floor regarding Broadway’s messengers, some Texas Baptist pastors proposed a compromise -- allowing messengers from the church to be seated but referring the matter of Broadway’s position on sexual ethics to the BGCT Executive Board for study.

At the time Broadway Baptist chose not to send messengers to the annual meeting, Pastor Brent Beasley said, “To not go stops a vote, doesn’t force us into this compromise, and gives us the time and freedom to decide where we go from here with the BGCT.”

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Related ABP stories:

Broadway Baptist decides not to send messengers to BGCT meeting (11/15/2009)

SBC messengers sever ties with Texas church over gay members (6/23/2009)





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What's really in the closet?
written by Nathan Barnes, March 09, 2010
The leadership of the SBC and apparently the BGCT are not willing to sacrifice church autonomy to catalog and track sex offending clergy but are willing to sacrifice it to keep GLBT folks from serving the Lord.

The extremely tight fundamentalist control over the SBC actually has helped sexual predators to continually harm children, and now we even have one pastor who killed his wife rather than confess and repent from adultery for fear of losing his career.



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written by Cindy Duvall, March 09, 2010
When the Church endorses something God has called sinful (sexual behavior between people of the same sex, as well as sexual expression outside of marriage between one man and one woman,) she has denied His sovereignty, and the authority of His Word. Affirming individuals does not mean the Church has to approve sinful behavior, and Christians often mix the two up. In addition, just because civil law legalizes a behavior (example,homosexual expression) or action (example, abortion)does not make it moral. Nor does it mean God has changed His mind about such things. A cursory look at how human bodies are made displays clearly God's intent for sexual behavior; male bodies are not made to receive sexual organs; female bodies are. If aberrant behavior is to be accepted as normal and within God's provision for human sexual expression, why not pedophilia, or bestiality, or?? If one type of perversion of God-ordained sexual expression is to be normalized, why not any perversion? Why would God create a person to sexually perform outside His parameters, then condemn the behavior? The Church needs to offer unconditional love to those struggling with homosexual desires, but never condone the behavior, nor encourage it. It's hard truth, but God knows what is best for us. Sometimes we don't like it His way. That doesn't change the fact that the Creator knows what is best for His creation, and He has set parameters for every area of our lives, not just in matters of sexual behavior.
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written by zdbu, March 10, 2010
Nathan makes a good point about the double standard often practiced by the denominational organizations, and that local autonomy is affirmed (except when the local church acts in a way that the leadership disapproves, then local autonomy gets set aside). One must ask why a church's view on homosexuality disqualifies it from participating in denominational activities and mission efforts.

Cindy's response is thoughtful and well put, however, there are a few problem areas in her argument. First, she fails to take into account any context for the biblical statements, assuming that homosexual behavior today is exactly the same as it was in biblical times. Second, appealing to biology to argue against homosexual behavior assumes that the only purpose for intimate, marital relationships is procreation. If that is true, then the biological argument is sound. But is it true that the only purpose for marriage is to have children? If it is, then are heterosexual couples who choose to not have children going against biology and thus, against God's will? Finally, she uses the "slippery slope" logic to suggest that if homosexuality is deemed acceptable, then pedophilia and bestiality will come next. This rationale sounds like sensationalism and overreaction rather than sound logic. Homosexuality among consenting adults is NOT the same as pedophilia or bestiality. What is more, pedophilia is closer to the behavior that the Bible condemns when it speaks of homosexuality, because, historically, much (most?) homosexual behavior was between an adult male and a young boy.
Not Surprised
written by Bobby McCord, March 10, 2010
When a church strays from the authority of God's Word the path they choose will lead them farther and farther away from God. A church that ordains a woman as vice chairman of deacons is one example of conflict with God's Word so why be surprised when the same church openly accepts those who live a life that God's Word calls an abomination to hold membership and leadership roles. A Circus draws a big crowd but is led by clowns. I am sure that this church will still be meeting when God's church is called away when the trumpet sounds. The A.B.P. will lift up this church as an example of their liberal, tolerant, inclusive, and ungodly views and will hail them as heroes of the faith. God's Word however tells us to condemn false teachers, false religion, and false churches. May this church be condemned before they lead searching souls into hell with them.
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written by zdbu, March 10, 2010
Bobby,

I get on here often enough to know that you are a frequent respondent to the articles posted on this website, and your responses are well articulated. What troubles me when I read your responses is not that they are different than my perspective. What troubles me is the caustic, sometimes demeaning tone that I often sense behind your posts. You seem to assume that those with whom you disagree do not believe the Bible, when the reality is that they simply interpret certain texts (e.g. texts regarding deacons which you reference) differently than you do. For example, you say that a church moves farther and farther away from God when it "strays from the authority of God's word." What you're really saying is, a church moves away from God when it strays from my interpretations of certain passages of Scripture. Regarding your comment on women serving as deacons, though I disagree with your views, I respect your opinion and your conclusion regarding women as deacons. What I take issue with is the unloving approach you take in setting out your opinion on the subject matter, and your mindset that suggests that anyone who ordains women as deacons clearly doesn't believe the Bible and is on a path to hell. My view that women can and should serve in any capacity in the church is based on my understanding of the Bible. I didn't just decide that I was OK with it one day. Yet, you make it sound as if those with whom you disagree has tossed the Bible aside and are doing whatever they please. This is simply not the case. You're entitled to your interpretation of certain texts, but it is wrong to assume that your interpretation is the only correct view. Finally, I'm wondering why, if the Associate Baptist Press website promotes "liberal, tolerant, inclusive, ungodly views," why do you continue to visit the site, read the articles and make comments about the content you find?
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written by John Bunyan, March 10, 2010
I think that Horatio Caine might say of CBF churches "They never learn."
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written by singer2, March 10, 2010
J.B.: You placed the same response on three different and, apparently, unrelated ABP articles. Are you at a loss for words? Do you wish to say anything constructive?
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written by KT2005, March 10, 2010
This is a dangerous situation for the BGCT. Most BGCT churches believe the Bible. To tolerate this church is to show true colors that are anathema to most Texas churches. The fact that this church has members on the most powerful committees in the BGCT speaks volumes. As I have said before, the BGCT has been high jacked by liberal, non-native Texans.

As far as the issue of homosexuality, the Bible is clear. Men and women are different. God made us different and assigned gender roles. Men can be many things but not a mother nor helpmate. Women can be man things but not a father or husband. The differences between men and women are what make us compatible and a wonderful team. Homosexuality advocates a relationship between two persons who are the same and not different. This relationship is both sinful and non-complementary. By the way, science has proven men and women are different. . . liberals required such evidence while normal people knew this all along.
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written by KT2005, March 10, 2010
Why is the CBF not moving to disassociate this sinful church?
Um...
written by Nathan Barnes, March 10, 2010
zbdu says: "she uses the "slippery slope" logic to suggest that if homosexuality is deemed acceptable, then pedophilia and bestiality will come next."

BUT pedophila is already accepted. No church has been disassociated from the SBC or BGCT for passing on sex offending clergy to other churches.

It's not a double standard. It's the standard.
To ZDBU
written by brotherroy, March 10, 2010
I appreciate the way you engaged Bobby on the issue of how he engages, but from past experience with Bobby, unfortunately your well-stated effort will be for naught. Bobby is on this site to stand as a prophet against "liberals" who give Baptists (like him) a bad name. He feels compelled to challenge, and probably is not going away. I have learned to ignore him. He is unloving and uncaring in his responses and does not wish true dialogue with anyone who disagrees with his narrow interpretations of Scripture. He is the one giving Christians and Baptists the negative reputation that we have in general society, but is blind to the damage he does to the cause of Christ. I realize this all sounds very harsh, but I believe that if someone who is so clearly opposed to news coverage and opinions of progressive Baptists continues to attack and demean those with whom they disagree, they should be called out for their behavior.
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written by singer2, March 11, 2010
Hi, KT. Surely you remember the historic tradition of local church autonomy with Baptists. CBF is not going to violate that.
Does your church not have sinners in its membership, or, are you really in heaven? Most churches have members who struggle with dishonesty, adultery, liars, etc., and New Testament teaching places no priority on sins, other than the sin of disbelief. That is a historic Baptist principle as well. Why do you try to prioritize homosexualtiy?
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written by KT2005, March 11, 2010
Hello Singer2,

Good to hear from you. My church is indeed heaven and we have no sin here. . . well, I wish this were true. ;-) Point well made. That said, I believe there is a huge difference between a repentant sinner and a rebellious sinner embracing sin. My church would welcome a repentant homosexual who still struggles with same sex attraction. Yet a homosexual who embraces a sinful lifestyle is not saved (1 Cor. 6:9). Denominations must uphold standards. Doesn't the CBF do this? If not, then what makes them Baptist? Why is homosexuality not a part of the standard?

I also believe some sins are worse than others. I appeal to three sources to make this case. First is common sense: to kill someone is worse than to cuss him. Second, in the Old Testament some sins are punished more than others. A harsher punishment says some sins are worse than others. Granted all sin is rebellion against God, but just because all sin is alike in this way does not mean all sin is equally rebellious or bad/evil. Lastly I appeal to the words of Christ Himself in John 19:11.

Jesus answered, “You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.”

Notice how Christ says "greater sin". Some sin is worse than others. Is this not what Christ is saying? See also "high handed" sin and "abomination."

I'm not sure where the idea that all sin is the same to God came from, but I find no Bible text to back it up. I would even argue that people like Hitler have a more tormenting place in hell due to their excess of sin. Wouldn't justice demand this be so?
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written by John Bunyan, March 11, 2010
singer2: I think that Horatio Caine might say of CBF churches "They never learn." He might say it of you also. Your presuppositions preclude any possibility of critial thought. That is why one finds no criticism of CBF churches on this website from the website contributors.
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written by Cindy Duvall, March 11, 2010
Hello, Singer 2...in response to your rhetorical question, it is not that the Church would prioritize the practice of homosexual behavior as worse than other sins that Christians struggle with, (lying, adultery, dishonesty, to mention the ones you spoke of.) But the Church stands against the practice of those sins as well as others,and through the Bible we are called to leave the practice of those things when we become believers. The reason it seems that homosexuality practice is prioritized as a greater sin is because our culture and society are calling for it to be normalized and accepted as a natural practice, yet God has said it is sin and He has not changed His mind. (From reading Romans 1 as well as other passages that speak against homosexual behavior, one can see that it is describing men having sexual relations with men, and women doing the same with women. It's pretty clear what is being described.) In 1st Corinthians 6:16-20 we are told to flee sexual immorality (of all types)because it is not only impure before God, it is a sin against our own bodies. The Bible categorizes sexual sins as "greater" because they bring greater personal consequences, to ourselves and others, and affront our bodies which are the dwelling of the Holy Spirit. While God has made it clear that the practice of homosexual behavior,as well as the practice of other sexual behaviors outside of the parameter of one man married to one woman, is sinful, the Church cannot treat people who are struggling with this as if it is an easy thing to overcome. We have to extend His love and help to those working to overcome this behavior, yet without condoning, encouraging or "normalizing" it. It's a tough call, to be sure.
zdbu
written by Bobby McCord, March 11, 2010
No, what I really mean is exactly what I said. It doesn't take a genius to interpret that "Husband of one wife" means a man. Or in Acts 6 when the apostles told the church to choose out men. I know that may be hard for you to interpret but I understand what it says just fine and you don't need to explain what I mean when I say something. God's Word speaks also against homosexuality in many places that I am sure you know about but I am also sure you want to interpret those scriptures away as well. When you say you interpret God's Word different, what you really mean is you believe the parts that suit you and explain away the parts that don't. If the church is supposed to act and look and live like the world after experiencing salvation, Christ died in vain and the Bible is not true.
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written by singer2, March 11, 2010
Yes, KT and Cindy---these are the positions I would hold, but I just can't go so far as to say God's grace treats homosexuality differently from other sins. Grace is bigger than that, and the contexts in New Testament teaching prove it for me. If we try to prooftext, then we are in trouble, because Jesus dealt with impure lives, but he did not list specific sins by name. For me, such issues are best treated from the point of view of effects on the person's life---drugs and homosexuality are two of the toughest. As a 12-year-old who had to deal with my father's alcoholism, I remember his tearful grief: "How can a righteous God ever forgive me?" When he finally learned to accept such amazing grace, the addiction was done, and the conversion was incredible.
Brotherroy
written by Bobby McCord, March 11, 2010
Hello, good to hear from you too. I am not just standing against liberals, I am standing for the authority of God's Word. I realize you think I am intolerant, unloving, and legalistic. The fact is, it doesn't matter what you think or even what you believe. What matters is what God's Word says. If you sin loving liberals would just read God's Word instead of trying to explain away the parts you disagree with, it would change your life. I do believe God's Word to be true. I do believe Homosexuality is an abomination, not just a sin but a symptom of a reprobate society. I believe abortion is the murder of a child not a womans choice. I beleive Communism and socialism are ungodly atheistis forms of government. I believe Faith in Christ alone attains salvation for mankind. I believe Isam is a false religion with a false prophet and a false God. I also believe any church that supports homosexuality is an Apostate church. I hope I put this in terms you can understand. I don't want you to misread me the way you do the Bible. By the way Roy, I don't believe we are brothers.
Sin, what sin?
written by dlhunt, March 12, 2010
I am sure the Royal Lane Baptist Church must find it difficult to tolerate other churches who support the sin of war, the sin of poverty, the sin of the destruction of God's creation among many things.
RE: Bobby McCord
written by zdbu, March 12, 2010
Bobby,

Thank you for your response to my earlier post. I agree that it "doesn't take a genius" to understand the phrase "husband of one wife" in 1 Timothy 3.2, 12. However, I disagree with your assumption that this is the only (or, at least, the definitive) passage regarding women's role in ministry (at least as it pertains to our dialogue about deacons). And even within this section on deacons, it requires that the reference to women in verse 11 be translated (i.e. interpreted) as the wife of a male deacon. This is possible, but it is an interpretation, because these verses aren’t as clear as the "husband of one wife" phrase that you referenced. So, it's not black-and-white in the texts you reference that deacons are only supposed to be male. Moreover, limiting the role of deacon to the male gender becomes increasingly difficult when you take into account texts other than this section in 1 Timothy. For example, in Romans 16.1 Paul refers to a woman named Phoebe with the same term used in 1 Timothy 3.8, 12--the word is "diakonon" or deacon. I'm not trying to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. I believe we are all called to wrestle with the biblical texts and draw our own conclusions. This is a core Baptist distinctive, that comes with great responsibility. What I'm hoping is that you'll show me the same respect that I'm trying to show you by being kind and loving even in those areas in which we disagree. Again, I do appreciate your response and that you have taken the time to think through what you believe and why. I just ask that you give me the same respect, since everything isn't always as black-and-white as you seem to suggest, and there is much, much room for diversity of opinion within the Christian faith because we find unity in our common belief that Jesus the Messiah is both savior and lord.

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