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Gay Christians can't wait any longer Print E-mail
By Peggy Campolo   
Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Editor's note: The recent series of articles by David Gushee on homosexuality generated an unusual amount of response. ABP solicited these two representative responses -- from Peggy Campolo, an advocate for gay Christians, and George Guthrie , a professor at Union University.

Peggy Campolo

(ABP) -- Thanks to Dr. David Gushee for his engaging article on Christian ethics as they relate to gay and lesbian Christians.  I am a committed Baptist who has worked within the church of Jesus Christ for more than 20 years to foster the understanding and acceptance of my gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender sisters and brothers - I'll just say "gay" for shorthand. I can personally testify to the anguish gay people feel when rejected by church and family because of who they are. I have also witnessed the joy of the many gay people I know who have found church homes where they are loved and accepted.
 
I agree with Dr. Gushee that the majority of the church is devoid of the kinds of discussions that would enable its members to gain a sound, biblically based theology of sexuality and marriage. Sadly, that has left its people to be manipulated by political voices who influence public opinion on sexual issues to win elections.
 
Dr. Gushee is right on the mark when he states that the problems of gay Christians cannot be properly addressed without the church clearly defining the meaning of sex and marriage, and I think he would agree with me that those who reduce marriage to "plumbing and baby-making" are the ones who demean marriage. The church should be grateful to those gay Christians who are raising the right questions.  
 
The current problems of straight people, as well as those facing God's gay children, cannot be solved until the church of Jesus Christ clearly defines for its people the meaning of celibacy, sex, marriage and what constitutes a family.  However, as Dr. Gushee clearly states, the large majority of the church today is afraid to talk about divorce or discuss any of these matters, even as they relate to heterosexuals.
 
Dr. Gushee calls for "a careful, unhurried process of Christian discernment" on this subject. I join him in longing for that. But God's gay children cannot face exclusion any longer. They are raising the very questions that need to be addressed by all of us, straight and gay. The anguish and despair I have seen in the Christian gay community does not allow time for such a scholarly approach to be our first move. We who are called to love our neighbors as ourselves must get to know and listen to them NOW.
 
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote a letter titled "Why We Can't Wait" from a jail in Birmingham, Ala.  He made his point about racial equality by talking about his own four small children, and all of the other children of color who were growing up feeling like second-class citizens. Those children of God, those who do not happen to be straight, are the reason that I, and so many others who love Jesus and believe in the Bible's message of grace, demand justice for them NOW.
 
A pastor friend of mine, who has conducted too many funerals for gay children of God who ended their lives because they could no longer live the lie that their churches and families demanded of them, tells of a suicide note left by a young Christian. He dearly loved the godly parents who had accepted him but could not bear the anguish felt when their church excluded them along with him. His final letter to his mother and father read simply, "I didn't know how else to fix it."
 
Dr. Gushee's proposal for "a careful, unhurried process of Christian discernment" is a necessary wake-up call for the church. However, we must also find a way to end the exclusion and anguish of God's gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender children NOW.   

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Peggy Campolo, a follower of Jesus Christ, speaks at churches, colleges and conferences, advocating for civil rights and full inclusion in the church for her lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender sisters and brothers.  A graduate of Eastern University, Peggy Campolo is a member of Central Baptist Church, Wayne, Pa., and serves on the advisory council of the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists. She is the wife of Baptist author and Eastern University professor Tony Campolo.


Read more:

The path to discernment on homosexuality (7/16)

On homosexuality, whose narrative do we believe? (5/1)

On homosexuality, can we at least talk about it? (3/27)





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I am Christian, Born again, Gay, and Blessed
written by Steve Leong, August 13, 2008
I don't think many present day people who call themselves Christian have ever put themselves into the shoes of a Gay person. Imagine being born different. Living your life in fear and denial, then having the very ones you love and trust the most, tell you that you are evil, and doomed to Hell. No wonder these products of Christian parents throw themselves into reckless sex, so they can hopefully die of aids, and not suffer the pain of their parent’s rejection. Sadly, the very people who should have been bringing them closer, push them further away from Jesus, closer! What could have resulted in a loving relationship with Christ, turns instead into tragedy.

The questions I suggest Christians ask, is "why did God create gays?” It is surprising to see what one discovers, if they lower their pride, and let the Holy Spirit answer. I discovered Jesus on my own 20 years ago when I was 36 years old. Prior to that I hated myself for being Gay, turning to drugs and alcohol. Then in 1988, I accepted myself as the Gay man God made me, and my life turned. Now I am in a wonderful loving relationship, and my life is showered with “blessings” constantly.

Thank you Peggy Campolo for bringing this subject of “Gay Christians” which has been an oxymoron for too long, to the Christian community. Steven Leong Aiea, Hawaii
A kight and the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.
written by Ian12, August 14, 2008
I hesitate to call myself a Christian. If anything I would be Church of England, but actually, I belong to no main stream religious group. It was not always the case. I am a gay man and I have been with my partner for 18 years. We have to wonderful children that we adopted in the UK. We say grace at every meal, bring the children up in a spirit of tolerence and respect for diversity including religious opinion. However hey have had to be warned that some people who call themselves Christian willl be critical of their parents. Sad but a fact.

When I read Peggy's contribution I had a "Wow" moment. I will be honest. I thought - so not all Baptists are bad. OK, I know you are not really but as a gay man one can get paranoid. Then I read on. My heart warmed, I realised that is a dark place some people really do carry a light that shines in the darkness. However for my own safety and the safety of my family I will continue to give organised religion a very wide birth. I wish Peggy and those like her my very best.
Ian12
Australia
We are all people of God
written by cbois, August 14, 2008
As a Christian and a gay man, I can attest to the fact that I have felt excluded from the church. But I am blessed to be a member of a welcoming & affirming Baptist church and to be a member of the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists. I have been involved with the LGBT rights movement within Baptist churches since 1991. Sometimes I just want to walk away from the struggle to be part of the Baptist family. It is hard to listen to the condemnation that often comes from my fellow Christians outside the W&A environment. But when I get discouraged, I'm uplifted by a story of hope and affirmation. I agree with Peggy that gay people have been asked to wait to long already. No one of faith should be asked to chose between the love of God and of another person they are committed to. It is not only this, but that gay and lesbian people are being asked to choose between God and who they are as God created persons. It is time that the Christian church/es follow a path of inclusion rather than exclusion. - Shalom
What does being reborn mean?
written by Falllon, August 15, 2008
I understand that Christians can undergo moments of falling and reconciling back to God but... what does being reborn mean? isn't it taking off the "old man" which is fashioned after the flesh and putting on the "new man" which is fashioned after Christ? How is it that we carry over some things that existed before we were "reborn" and others we leave behind? We have to receive the whole counsel of God: we cant say we are reborn and still have things from our old life willingly.
trasforming gospel power
written by forChrist, August 18, 2008
As a Baptist, I am deeply distressed over Peggy's article and comments posted. Our local church would joyfully receive anyone regardless of their sexual orientation to visit our services and Bible study but would never welcome someone into membership who has not repented of a homosexual lifestyle. We receive the good news of Christ through repentance and faith. Repentance is the key for any sin. Following Jesus means the Holy Spirit will sanctify believers and redeem all our faculties for the appropriate uses to glorify God. Sexual sin is wrong, whether homosexuality, promiscuity, adultery, perversion, etc. The Bible is clear regarding appropriate relationships and it is sad that so many "Christians" want to diminish the transforming power of the gospel by proclaiming a message of acceptance. It is deceiving and robs you from experiencing the liberating power of the gospel by breaking the bonds of all manner of sin. Do not be deceived and realize that homosexuality is sin, and Jesus can free you from this bondage as he frees drunkards from drinking, thieves from robbery, deceivers from lies, and adulterers from fornication. 1Corinthians 6:9-11 is a testimony to the transforming power of the grace of God and all of us must rejoice in this hope. As a Christian and a Baptist, I cannot accept anyone is a Christian who has not repented of the LGBT lifestyle, but I can welcome you to experience the liberating power of the gospel and the true love of Christ that frees us from the bondage of sin. Written in love and compassion for all who read.--forChrist.
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written by GregF, August 18, 2008
RE The current problems... cannot be solved until the church of Jesus Christ clearly defines for its people the meaning of celibacy, sex, marriage and what constitutes a family.

I agree. But... how is this to happen? Your statement is right on the mark. However, within a Baptist framework, defining the meaning of these topics will be impossible because there "the church of Jesus Christ" is local and autonomous.

According to Bill Leonard, "Theological diversity, congregational autonomy, and freedom of conscience create environments in which debate, controversy, and schism are not merely possible but inevitable. In a sense, Baptists created an ecclesiastical and theological framework that ensured controversy, dispute, and division." * *

The situation as we have today - at least for Baptists - is as good as it will get. (Or, depending on your position, as bad as it will get.) Christians who accept homosexuality will surround themselves with others of like mind, they will fill their libraries with books that support their position, they will invite speakers to their group who reinforce their beliefs, and - over time - they will become insulated enough in their own local and autonomous existence to believe that their position is the biblical one.

And, by the way, those who oppose homosexuality will do the same thing.

This will be the case as long as Baptists have it in their mind that it is acceptable for dissenters to push their own agenda and split off into their own group, rather than stay together to figure things out.

The discussion is a good one, but don't hope for a clearly defined solution any time soon.

**Extract from Chapter 1 of Baptist Ways: A History by Bill J. Leonard.
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written by Mark Osgatharp, August 25, 2008
It staggers the mind to think that "Baptists" are discussing whether or not impenitent sodomites should be accepted into church fellowship. This just shows the depth to which the Baptist movement has sunk.

For those who believe in the authority of Jesus Christ and His Holy Bible, this is a cut and dried issue which can be answered with two sentences: 1. The practice of sodomy is an unnatural perversion of God's creation to be shunned and repented of. 2. Those who have been guilty of this sin against God are commanded to repent just like all other sinners are commanded to repent, and if they do so should be welcomed into full Christian fellowship.

Ms. Campolo's bold demand for the churches to renounce their commitment to Jesus Christ and embrace this wickedness is justly deserving of His rebuke to the church at Thyatira:

"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works."

Jesus' warning also stands as a stiff rebuke to those Baptists who, while standing on the correct side of the issue, molly-coddle those have so arrogantly and impudently challenge the word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ. As Jesus also said,

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Objections to the article
written by mightyfowl, September 06, 2008
As a heterosexual male, like other heterosexual males, I am generally attracted to women, and indiscriminately so. That's why the book is entitled "Every Man's Battle", I guess.

When I came to Christ, I had to submit my sexuality to Jesus' Lordship ... that's what "lord" means ... supreme in authority. I had to give up my tendency toward indiscriminate lust, realizing it was sin.

Whatever factors drive women, sexually, must likewise be subordinated to the express will of God.

God says what he says about homosexuality, and no amount of complaining about it, nor all the protest marches in the world, can change what He has said. Nor can they change the admonitions in 1 Corinthians 5 about what the church's responsibility is in that respect, nor as regards other grievous sin.
With Love
written by achristian, September 06, 2008
I have been reading testimonies on your site from christians...and my heart goes out to you..what do you think about this....the condition for salvation, and knowing Jesus is repenting, and asking God the Father for forgiveness, and believing on Jesus Christ...

If we stand righteous in any sin, be it homosexuality, lying , adultry , tax evasion.... are we not saying I am right God, and you are wrong. And in our righteous stance do we not miss the first condition of knowing God....repentence.....

For Jesus said He came to save sinners, not the righteous... We humans cannot bend God's word to fit our will, That is the reason for our fall from grace, we decided we would choose for ourselves what was right..our standard...not God's

To get back in the family of God,,we must understand and look to God's standard of what is right and wrong....this is the basic condition for entering the Family of God..

I approach you with Love, and am interested in your biblical opion.
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written by guard_gal4god, October 16, 2008
First off I have to say I am a Bible believer who tests everything against the Word of God.
I was a bit confused after reading this article, because God punishes every sin the same. I am not God, but after reading about Sodom and Gomorrah I am pretty sure God hates homosexual sin just as much as any other sexual sin and all others.
I do not agree with a homosexual lifestyle, nonetheless, I think their sin is just as bad as mine and I do not treat my homosexual friends any different than my heterosexual friends.
No one is born gay, it a choice. It entered the world when Adam and Eve sinned as all other sins did, we have to choose daily whether we are going to give into it or not. It is extremely difficult to battle sin daily, trust me i know, but we can not give into it, thinking God is blessing us, because sin is sin and he hates it all.
I am a follower of Christ who believes all people were created the same and should be treated equally as people. However Ms. Campolo, with all do respect, Dr. King was fighting for his equality because people were treating him different because of his skin color; that was something he obviously can not change.
I know of people who claimed they were "born gay" who prayed against it and over time God took their "gay" desires away and he started yearning for women.
I don't want to come across as judgemental, because everyone who knows me knows I am not, but the Bible clearly says, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God,"Matthew 22:29.
-"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulters nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy drunkards will inherit the kingdom of God," 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
-"For this reason a MAN will leave his father and mother and be united to his WIFE, and they will become one flesh," Genesis 2:24.

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